Covid Jab or no Covid Jab? Discuss!

[WickedPerdition]

The coverage of the riots in Bristol were shameful in the media, to see what really went on you had to look elsewhere. Just as you had to do for the BLM riots. Sadly the vast majority never look beyond what they read in the press, or see on the news, so don’t even know that their information is censored. I saw nothing on tv about the guy trying to burn police van while officers were still inside (it may have been on tv, but I never saw or read about it in the media).
Our mainstream media have no shame now, on either side of the political divide, it’s not longer news, merely propaganda in support of whichever party they support.

Isn't this post misplaced? Surely it should be placed in response to the 'Bristol Riots' thread. Either that or it was more convoluted than I suspected.

 

[Percy666]

So why are YOU so worried about me ? Seems that you are obsessed by normal people ?. Read the results of the poll you yampy and then explain why the majority WANT the vaccine ?.

What do you mean " why am I bothered about you"? You were the one who resorted to calling people dim because you haven't the intelligence to see beyond your covid blinkered one dimensional mindset rabbiting on about the dysfunctional NHS implying people should inject themselves to protect a crumbling healthcare system that needs reforming/scrapping anyway. Vaccines should be taken for health reasons for each specific individual case, not to "protect a system for other people to use that barely works anyway even in the best of times. The reality is you don't read any of the posts and don't engage properly on the thread because you aren't a very bright individual and revert back to your default mindset of " the virus is akin to the bubonic plague, the NHS needs protecting - you don't question it because of a limited brain. In times gone by you would have been a flat earther and screaming burn the witch because you're a sheep following the masses without questioning anything... from now on I shall refer to you as Dolly unless you demonstrate the ability to read and write rationally.

 

[Percy666]

I just did a quick short Google and each of the treatments for Polio ,Measles and Covid19 are "Vaccines " you silly people who try to convert others to your way of thinking .Lol ! you are deffo Demented .

Taken from data regarding polio vaccines when they were in their early stages ( similar to covid vaccines)

In 1960, the rhesus monkey kidney cells used to prepare the poliovirus vaccines were determined to be infected with the simian virus-40 (SV40),[31] which was also discovered in 1960 and is a naturally occurring virus that infects monkeys. In 1961, SV40 was found to cause tumors in rodents.[32] More recently, the virus was found in certain forms of cancer in humans, for instance brain and bone tumors, pleural and peritoneal mesothelioma, and some types of non-Hodgkin lymphoma.[33][34] ] Over 98 million Americans received one or more doses of polio vaccine between 1955 and 1963 when a proportion of vaccine was contaminated with SV40; an estimated 10–30 million Americans may have received a dose of vaccine contaminated with SV40.[31] Later analysis suggested that vaccines produced by the former Soviet bloc countries until 1980, and used in the USSR, China, Japan, and several African countries, may have been contaminated, meaning hundreds of millions more may have been exposed to SV40

In April 1955, soon after mass polio vaccination began in the US, the Surgeon General began to receive reports of patients who contracted paralytic polio about a week after being vaccinated with Salk polio vaccine from Cutter pharmaceutical company, with the paralysis limited to the limb the vaccine was injected into. The Cutter vaccine had been used in vaccinating 200,000 children in the western and midwestern United States.[76] Later investigations showed that the Cutter vaccine had caused 40,000 cases of polio, killing 10. In response the Surgeon General pulled all polio vaccine made by Cutter Laboratories from the market, but not before 250 cases of paralytic illness had occurred. Wyeth polio vaccine was also reported to have paralyzed and killed several children. It was soon discovered that some lots of Salk polio vaccine made by Cutter and Wyeth had not been properly inactivated, allowing live poliovirus into more than 100,000 doses of vaccine. In May 1955, the National Institutes of Health and Public Health Services established a Technical Committee on Poliomyelitis Vaccine to test and review all polio vaccine lots and advise the Public Health Service as to which lots should be released for public use. These incidents reduced public confidence in polio vaccine, leading to a drop in vaccination rates

There is a reason vaccines take years to develop @hell2bwith76

 

[hell2bwith76]

You assume I’m wrong but you are yet to come back with any evidence that the vaccine (that’s not a vaccine) is doing anything. Instead, you call people names and try to change the subject. Sad really.

Who`s calling who names ?
I told you i googled Vaccine and the Covid 19 vaccine IS a vaccine . Of course you know different ?.

 

[hell2bwith76]

What do you mean " why am I bothered about you"? You were the one who resorted to calling people dim because you haven't the intelligence to see beyond your covid blinkered one dimensional mindset rabbiting on about the dysfunctional NHS implying people should inject themselves to protect a crumbling healthcare system that needs reforming/scrapping anyway. Vaccines should be taken for health reasons for each specific individual case, not to "protect a system for other people to use that barely works anyway even in the best of times. The reality is you don't read any of the posts and don't engage properly on the thread because you aren't a very bright individual and revert back to your default mindset of " the virus is akin to the bubonic plague, the NHS needs protecting - you don't question it because of a limited brain. In times gone by you would have been a flat earther and screaming burn the witch because you're a sheep following the masses without questioning anything... from now on I shall refer to you as Dolly unless you demonstrate the ability to read and write rationally.

Odd that as i consider that i don`t follow anyone ,unlike some toffee talking nobs on here who have a band of followers to back them up in any any discord. Who the hell do you think you are ? You call people names and then accuse them of calling you names ? haha you`r a comedian

 

[Percy666]

Who`s calling who names ?
I told you i googled Vaccine and the Covid 19 vaccine IS a vaccine . Of course you know different ?.

 

[Bad_Influence]

Who`s calling who names ?
I told you i googled Vaccine and the Covid 19 vaccine IS a vaccine . Of course you know different ?.

What site told you it was a vaccine? I’m curious.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Taken from data regarding polio vaccines when they were in their early stages ( similar to covid vaccines)

In 1960, the rhesus monkey kidney cells used to prepare the poliovirus vaccines were determined to be infected with the simian virus-40 (SV40),[31] which was also discovered in 1960 and is a naturally occurring virus that infects monkeys. In 1961, SV40 was found to cause tumors in rodents.[32] More recently, the virus was found in certain forms of cancer in humans, for instance brain and bone tumors, pleural and peritoneal mesothelioma, and some types of non-Hodgkin lymphoma.[33][34] ] Over 98 million Americans received one or more doses of polio vaccine between 1955 and 1963 when a proportion of vaccine was contaminated with SV40; an estimated 10–30 million Americans may have received a dose of vaccine contaminated with SV40.[31] Later analysis suggested that vaccines produced by the former Soviet bloc countries until 1980, and used in the USSR, China, Japan, and several African countries, may have been contaminated, meaning hundreds of millions more may have been exposed to SV40

In April 1955, soon after mass polio vaccination began in the US, the Surgeon General began to receive reports of patients who contracted paralytic polio about a week after being vaccinated with Salk polio vaccine from Cutter pharmaceutical company, with the paralysis limited to the limb the vaccine was injected into. The Cutter vaccine had been used in vaccinating 200,000 children in the western and midwestern United States.[76] Later investigations showed that the Cutter vaccine had caused 40,000 cases of polio, killing 10. In response the Surgeon General pulled all polio vaccine made by Cutter Laboratories from the market, but not before 250 cases of paralytic illness had occurred. Wyeth polio vaccine was also reported to have paralyzed and killed several children. It was soon discovered that some lots of Salk polio vaccine made by Cutter and Wyeth had not been properly inactivated, allowing live poliovirus into more than 100,000 doses of vaccine. In May 1955, the National Institutes of Health and Public Health Services established a Technical Committee on Poliomyelitis Vaccine to test and review all polio vaccine lots and advise the Public Health Service as to which lots should be released for public use. These incidents reduced public confidence in polio vaccine, leading to a drop in vaccination rates

There is a reason vaccines take years to develop @hell2bwith76

Percy ,had you lived 100plus years ago you wouldn`t be curing your headaches with Paracetomol or expecting a dentist to prevent your tooth decay. We have advanced since then i hope but not with regard to the persons who follow your thinking .

You need`nt answer ,it`s no bigee but do you have a family ?

 

[hell2bwith76]

What site told you it was a vaccine? I’m curious.

Let me tell you Bad.
I asked my browser ( Microsoft) if there was a Polio vaccine and the list of replies was all about the Polio "Vaccine " no mention that it wasn`t a vaccine .
I did this with several other medical conditions and they all responded similarly that all are Vaccines including Covid19. I hope that helps .

 

[Bad_Influence]

Let me tell you Bad.
I asked my browser ( Microsoft) if there was a Polio vaccine and the list of replies was all about the Polio "Vaccine " no mention that it wasn`t a vaccine .
I did this with several other medical conditions and they all responded similarly that all are Vaccines including Covid19. I hope that helps .

Which site specifically? Or did you just believe the first one Google gave you?

 

[hell2bwith76]

What do you mean " why am I bothered about you"? You were the one who resorted to calling people dim because you haven't the intelligence to see beyond your covid blinkered one dimensional mindset rabbiting on about the dysfunctional NHS implying people should inject themselves to protect a crumbling healthcare system that needs reforming/scrapping anyway. Vaccines should be taken for health reasons for each specific individual case, not to "protect a system for other people to use that barely works anyway even in the best of times. The reality is you don't read any of the posts and don't engage properly on the thread because you aren't a very bright individual and revert back to your default mindset of " the virus is akin to the bubonic plague, the NHS needs protecting - you don't question it because of a limited brain. In times gone by you would have been a flat earther and screaming burn the witch because you're a sheep following the masses without questioning anything... from now on I shall refer to you as Dolly unless you demonstrate the ability to read and write rationally.

You called me names long before i said anyone was dim. Read back on this thread.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Which site specifically? Or did you just believe the first one Google gave you?

It threw up lots of sites ,all with the same response,Covid19 ,Polio,Measles ,etc etc are all vaccines

 

[Percy666]

Percy ,had you lived 100plus years ago you wouldn`t be curing your headaches with Paracetomol or expecting a dentist to prevent your tooth decay. We have advanced since then i hope but not with regard to the persons who follow your thinking .

You need`nt answer ,it`s no bigee but do you have a family ?

My family is of no concern to you and no relevance so why ask it? if you had read the article ( which you clearly haven't) you will see many of these medical failings in the last 50 years not 100 and we have continually seen medical errors right to the present day. Advancements in medicine dont negate the risks of any new " vaccine" particularly ones like pfizer which is new technology completely

There are plenty of egs of modern medicine killing people,
In 2008, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced a large-scale recall of heparin after discovering contaminated raw batches of the drug that had been manufactured in China by Scientific Protein Laboratories, a US firm. Heparin is injected into many people to prevent blood clots and is derived from slaughtered animal tissues such as pigs’ intestines and cows’ lungs. The recall followed 81 deaths and 785 other reports of severe injuries linked to the drug.

In October 2012, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) followed the trail of an outbreak of fungal meningitis back to the contamination of medication administered as epidural steroid injections. Packaged and sold by Massachusetts-based pharmacy the New England Compounding Center (NECC), the spoiled drugs had been sent to 75 clinics, hospitals and surgeries across 23 states. Between May and September of that year, approximately 14,000 patients received the medication.While people reported symptoms in August, the infection was so strange that a common cause was not suspected until the following month. In fact, cases of meningitis attributed to the fungal varieties implicated were so rare that their discovery and treatment explored new medical territory. By mid-January 2013, 678 people had contracted the fungal disease and 44 had died.

In 2007, 70 years on from the infamous Elixir Sulfanilamide poisoning scandal in the US, a similar outbreak caused the tragic loss of hundreds of lives. In Panama, pharmaceutical manufacturers used diethylene glycol, which is commonly used in antifreeze and brake fluid, to make cough syrup, mistakenly believing it to be glycerine. The offending ingredient led to no less than 365 deaths in Panama and was traced back to China.

Hardly back in the stone age these cases are they?

 

[Bad_Influence]

It threw up lots of sites ,all with the same response,Covid19 ,Polio,Measles ,etc etc are all vaccines

Well in that case I thank you for proving my point. The public generally are gullible. Don’t believe the first thing you read ffs

 

[TwoWhalesInAPool]

The Interval: Part IV

Another round of inappropriate jokes.

* If you have ever used the same sponge/cloth to wash your dishes for a few days. Don't you be worrying about what is in the vaccines.

* Pfizer: Having also created Viagra, we can fully rely on a company that was able to raise the dead, to cure the living.

* What contains the letters a,u, t, and s and is caused by vaccines? - Adults

* It's only quarantine if it comes from the quarantine region of France; otherwise, it's just a sparkling isolation.

* You know being self quarantined isn't even that boring. But I am surprised that there are 7884 grains of rice in one pack, and 7892 in another.

* When this whole Covid_19 saga is done and dusted, I still want many of you to stay the fvck away from me.

I will be back.

 

[Bad_Influence]

My family is of no concern to you and no relevance so why ask it? if you had read the article ( which you clearly haven't) you will see many of these medical failings in the last 50 years not 100 and we have continually seen medical errors right to the present day. Advancements in medicine dont negate the risks of any new " vaccine" particularly ones like pfizer which is new technology completely

There are plenty of egs of modern medicine killing people,
In 2008, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced a large-scale recall of heparin after discovering contaminated raw batches of the drug that had been manufactured in China by Scientific Protein Laboratories, a US firm. Heparin is injected into many people to prevent blood clots and is derived from slaughtered animal tissues such as pigs’ intestines and cows’ lungs. The recall followed 81 deaths and 785 other reports of severe injuries linked to the drug.

In October 2012, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) followed the trail of an outbreak of fungal meningitis back to the contamination of medication administered as epidural steroid injections. Packaged and sold by Massachusetts-based pharmacy the New England Compounding Center (NECC), the spoiled drugs had been sent to 75 clinics, hospitals and surgeries across 23 states. Between May and September of that year, approximately 14,000 patients received the medication.While people reported symptoms in August, the infection was so strange that a common cause was not suspected until the following month. In fact, cases of meningitis attributed to the fungal varieties implicated were so rare that their discovery and treatment explored new medical territory. By mid-January 2013, 678 people had contracted the fungal disease and 44 had died.

In 2007, 70 years on from the infamous Elixir Sulfanilamide poisoning scandal in the US, a similar outbreak caused the tragic loss of hundreds of lives. In Panama, pharmaceutical manufacturers used diethylene glycol, which is commonly used in antifreeze and brake fluid, to make cough syrup, mistakenly believing it to be glycerine. The offending ingredient led to no less than 365 deaths in Panama and was traced back to China.

Hardly back in the stone age these cases are they?

Don't confuse him with facts. He is happy in his bubble of apathy and ignorance of even the possibility that the vaccine may not be all he’s told. He will defend that bubble no matter how much evidence is put before him.

 

[hell2bwith76]

What do you mean " why am I bothered about you"? You were the one who resorted to calling people dim because you haven't the intelligence to see beyond your covid blinkered one dimensional mindset rabbiting on about the dysfunctional NHS implying people should inject themselves to protect a crumbling healthcare system that needs reforming/scrapping anyway. Vaccines should be taken for health reasons for each specific individual case, not to "protect a system for other people to use that barely works anyway even in the best of times. The reality is you don't read any of the posts and don't engage properly on the thread because you aren't a very bright individual and revert back to your default mindset of " the virus is akin to the bubonic plague, the NHS needs protecting - you don't question it because of a limited brain. In times gone by you would have been a flat earther and screaming burn the witch because you're a sheep following the masses without questioning anything... from now on I shall refer to you as Dolly unless you demonstrate the ability to read and write rationally.

laughable .

 

[Bad_Influence]

laughable .

Why is it laughable? Because you refuse to accept it?

 

[hell2bwith76]

My family is of no concern to you and no relevance so why ask it? if you had read the article ( which you clearly haven't) you will see many of these medical failings in the last 50 years not 100 and we have continually seen medical errors right to the present day. Advancements in medicine dont negate the risks of any new " vaccine" particularly ones like pfizer which is new technology completely

There are plenty of egs of modern medicine killing people,
In 2008, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced a large-scale recall of heparin after discovering contaminated raw batches of the drug that had been manufactured in China by Scientific Protein Laboratories, a US firm. Heparin is injected into many people to prevent blood clots and is derived from slaughtered animal tissues such as pigs’ intestines and cows’ lungs. The recall followed 81 deaths and 785 other reports of severe injuries linked to the drug.

In October 2012, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) followed the trail of an outbreak of fungal meningitis back to the contamination of medication administered as epidural steroid injections. Packaged and sold by Massachusetts-based pharmacy the New England Compounding Center (NECC), the spoiled drugs had been sent to 75 clinics, hospitals and surgeries across 23 states. Between May and September of that year, approximately 14,000 patients received the medication.While people reported symptoms in August, the infection was so strange that a common cause was not suspected until the following month. In fact, cases of meningitis attributed to the fungal varieties implicated were so rare that their discovery and treatment explored new medical territory. By mid-January 2013, 678 people had contracted the fungal disease and 44 had died.

In 2007, 70 years on from the infamous Elixir Sulfanilamide poisoning scandal in the US, a similar outbreak caused the tragic loss of hundreds of lives. In Panama, pharmaceutical manufacturers used diethylene glycol, which is commonly used in antifreeze and brake fluid, to make cough syrup, mistakenly believing it to be glycerine. The offending ingredient led to no less than 365 deaths in Panama and was traced back to China.

Hardly back in the stone age these cases are they?

My reason for asking about your family is how do you feel about them and the Covid19 vaccine ? or do you only ever consider Number 1 ? ( as Maggie preached always and you are just one of the Thatcher generation)

 

[hell2bwith76]

Well in that case I thank you for proving my point. The public generally are gullible. Don’t believe the first thing you read ffs

The same thing i say to you .