Covid Jab or no Covid Jab? Discuss!

[hell2bwith76]

It came from the last tory government which has been in power for 11 years

Tel me then ,why did they laugh and deride Corbyn`s lot when they said they would spend £60 billion on the NHS if they got into power ?.
Also why did the Party kick Cameron and Theresa May out when it was Election time ?

 

[Poco_Loco]

Calm down mate .It`s not the end of the world yet ! We can all see what Laws on protesting protesters did in Bristol ( eh Poco ?) and if that`s going to help then it`s sad.

Yup

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[Percy666]

Tel me then ,why did they laugh and deride Corbyn`s lot when they said they would spend £60 billion on the NHS if they got into power ?.
Also why did the Party kick Cameron and Theresa May out when it was Election time ?

Corbyn has the financial acumen of a drunken daddy long legs - the man is a socialist with his head in the clouds. He personified politically an idea, a brand of crazy revolutionary socialism, mixing far-left economic policy with deep hostility to Western foreign policy, which never has appealed to traditional Labour voters which is why he never had a hope in hell of being elected and unsurprisingly was wiped out in the last election. Cameron resigned after the brexit vote( thank God we left) and Thatcher left after he deal with the EU was so pathetic it was effectively the same as not leaving- not sure what relevance that has to Labours credibility

 

[Percy666]

Ahhh yes ,i remember ,it was about a dozen people in UK died due to being allergic to the Vaccine .That was immediately noted and anyone who has had the vaccine since will know that one of the 1st questions asked before they`ll allow you to have the jab is if you are allergic to anything.

Plenty have died in Europe from it, it's licensed because it's considered the risks of covid are greater than the rare vaccine issues. I would post links if the site would allow me, they weren't allergic reactions

 

[hell2bwith76]

Corbyn has the financial acumen of a drunken daddy long legs - the man is a socialist with his head in the clouds. He personified politically an idea, a brand of crazy revolutionary socialism, mixing far-left economic policy with deep hostility to Western foreign policy, which never has appealed to traditional Labour voters which is why he never had a hope in hell of being elected and unsurprisingly was wiped out in the last election. Cameron resigned after the brexit vote( thank God we left) and Thatcher left after he deal with the EU was so pathetic it was effectively the same as not leaving- not sure what relevance that has to Labours credibility

I agree that Labour never stood a chance of being elected with Corbyn in charge but the fact remains that when their manifesto stated they would spend £60 billion on the NHS they were laughed away from office yet this Government are able to spend £300 billion plus on the NHS ?? Someone was lying and i can`t see that it was Labour..
Lets see what the swinging Labour/Tory voters do in 5 years time after all the Tax rises .

 

[hell2bwith76]

Plenty have died in Europe from it, it's licensed because it's considered the risks of covid are greater than the rare vaccine issues. I would post links if the site would allow me, they weren't allergic reactions

You could copy/paste some of the wording from the links eh ?
We just need evidence from a reliable source ( not a Conspiracy Magazine ) that people have been killed by the Vaccine
ohh btw ,i get my 2nd dose this Suinday .If you never see me again then your theory is right Percy _

 

[Percy666]

I agree that Labour never stood a chance of being elected with Corbyn in charge but the fact remains that when their manifesto stated they would spend £60 billion on the NHS they were laughed away from office yet this Government are able to spend £300 billion plus on the NHS ?? Someone was lying and i can`t see that it was Labour..
Lets see what the swinging Labour/Tory voters do in 5 years time after all the Tax rises .

Do you honestly believe anyone a few years ago could have predicted a pandemic which has wiped out the economy of most countries in making predictions for the NHS? The tax rises will be as a consequence of all these silly lockdowns meaning we will all be paying it back for decades which Labour have not only supported but implied they should be more draconian. I'm anti lockdown and so are most tories in comparison to labour - the population have wanted to be locked away and now there will be a price to pay

 

[Bad_Influence]

Corbyn could have promised £100 billion if he’d wanted. He knew he’d never be in a position to have to back up his promises.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Corbyn could have promised £100 billion if he’d wanted. He knew he’d never be in a position to have to back up his promises.

I think most people knew that.

 

[Percy666]

You could copy/paste some of the wording from the links eh ?
We just need evidence from a reliable source ( not a Conspiracy Magazine ) that people have been killed by the Vaccine
ohh btw ,i get my 2nd dose this Suinday .If you never see me again then your theory is right Percy _

"One British man died and four others suffered a rare form of blood clotting after receiving the Oxford coronavirus vaccine. The UK’s medicines regulator said it had received reports of five men aged between 19 and 59 having an ‘extremely rare and specific type’ of blood clot following the injection. One of them has since died. But the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said the ‘benefits of the vaccine in preventing Covid-19 far outweigh the risks’. ‘People should still go and get their Covid-19 vaccine when asked to do so,’ it added."

There are more abroad, my view is that each persons risk/reward status from the vaccine is different @hell2bwith76 for some age groups the risks of covid may be greater but not to others. I hope your second jab goes well My reasons for not taking the vaccine arent to to with vaccine worries particularly

 

[hell2bwith76]

Do you honestly believe anyone a few years ago could have predicted a pandemic which has wiped out the economy of most countries in making predictions for the NHS? The tax rises will be as a consequence of all these silly lockdowns meaning we will all be paying it back for decades which Labour have not only supported but implied they should be more draconian. I'm anti lockdown and so are most tories in comparison to labour - the population have wanted to be locked away and now there will be a price to pay

The "silly" lockdowns were ignored by Boris for a month until he realised that it was the best way to go to avoid the NHS overheating or erupting.. most other countries. didn`t leave it so long..Oh dear ,i`m reading the wrong news station ( on PC) and watching the wrong news on TV ...darn !.

 

[Percy666]

The "silly" lockdowns were ignored by Boris for a month until he realised that it was the best way to go to avoid the NHS overheating or erupting.. most other countries. didn`t leave it so long..Oh dear ,i`m reading the wrong news station ( on PC) and watching the wrong news on TV ...darn !.

If the NHS which has the worst death rate in Europe needs everyone to be locked away to protect it, it needs scrapping and is unfit for purpose

 

[hell2bwith76]

"One British man died and four others suffered a rare form of blood clotting after receiving the Oxford coronavirus vaccine. The UK’s medicines regulator said it had received reports of five men aged between 19 and 59 having an ‘extremely rare and specific type’ of blood clot following the injection. One of them has since died. But the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said the ‘benefits of the vaccine in preventing Covid-19 far outweigh the risks’. ‘People should still go and get their Covid-19 vaccine when asked to do so,’ it added."

There are more abroad, my view is that each persons risk/reward status from the vaccine is different @hell2bwith76 for some age groups the risks of covid may be greater but not to others. I hope your second jab goes well My reasons for not taking the vaccine arent to to with vaccine worries particularly

Unfortunatley ,with this deadly Virus ,we have to deal in Probabilities with no precise Covid Killer Vaccine . It is bound to have a serious ,or even lethal ,affect on them. They are the vast minority though ..not much can be done about that yet apart from allowing people the choice.
This really is a War with an invisible enemy .

 

[hell2bwith76]

If the NHS which has the worst death rate in Europe needs everyone to be locked away to protect it, it needs scrapping and is unfit for purpose

Make everyone wealthy and i`m happy with that suggestion

 

[Brass]

Here's some disturbing stuff (subtitled).

The 7:00 mark kind of says it all. And I hear some died.

Full Version Whistleblower Video Investigative Corona Committee Germany (brightcove.net)

 

[Percy666]

Unfortunatley ,with this deadly Virus ,we have to deal in Probabilities with no precise Covid Killer Vaccine . It is bound to have a serious ,or even lethal ,affect on them. They are the vast minority though ..not much can be done about that yet apart from allowing people the choice.
This really is a War with an invisible enemy .

Absolutely, but the vast majority people who get covid particularly the younger generation dont even know they have it and their decision not to take a vaccine should be respected also

 

[hell2bwith76]

Absolutely, but the vast majority people who get covid particularly the younger generation dont even know they have it and their decision not to take a vaccine should be respected also

I thought it was ?

 

[Wojcik]

this sh** s going to be with us for a long time - all the vacs etc., but what happens when there is another virus, worse?
there will be another, which means our scientists etc. have their work cut out.

The Hong Kong flu was worse I've heard. There was also a vaccination for it, but a second deadlier wave occurred when the flu returned, suggesting that vaccinations may not 100% protect us from Covid, especially if a second wave is about to hit us. It will probably finalise as a seasonal virus.
And we've lived through viruses and plagues for generations. But i don't ever remember a time like this where the cure/solution has been taken to the extreme. And now we hear about a Brazilian variant seeping through into Europe. So i don't think this will be the end. Neither do i think we'll see the end of lockdowns, social distancing and seeing our family members in person and spending time with them.

 

[Brass]

If you had to give an estimate, what percentage of a reduction in Covid cases and deaths are associated with wearing masks? What percentage of a reduction in cases and deaths associated with wearing masks would justify wearing masks?

 

[Markie]

So to summarise ,

A member of a Dis-Functional NHS (Not my words , that of it's Leaders) , who you have never met before ,

Pumped a Liquid into you that is rumoured to be a Vaccine and you didn't bother to check what it does ?

Why because a Man in a suit and a very bad hairstyle told you to ?

I might try it cause that seems really sensible !!

I am sure you have been 'pumped' before by someone you don't know lol, have you never had any vaccines?

I don't need to check what it does, experts, not off chat lol, have tested it to be relatively safe and protection against what is potentially a killer, whatever your age.

I guess 'some' people will always die as a result of taking the vaccine, having rare complications and that's sad of course.

What if it kills you? Because you didn't want to have the vaccine?

Maybe you're not bothered, but i am sure you have loved ones that are.

You who don't have the vaccine are in the minority, and it is of course your choice to either have it or not.

I don't know why it's such a big thing, it's only a little prick.

I'm sure you're used to having one of those