Another woman murdered on our streets.

[Tinkerbelle]

You stupid stupid woman ( or excuse for one !). Why do you think men and women were put on the earth ? I`ll wait to see if you know the answer !

I really do pity ur wife if u speak to her the way u speak to most females on this site. Speaks volumes how much of a prick u actually are !

 

[hell2bwith76]

Firstly, you were the one obsessed earlier on in the thread about whether she raped or sexually assaulted. YOU were the one obsessed with that and I was replying to YOUR posts

My reasoning is beyond your mental capacity i`m afraid . Until it`s known how or why this woman was murdered then nobody is going to be able to figure out a way of protecting women from their own "domestic" animals !
I think there is a lot more to this particular murder than women are hoping for. Jill Dando suffered a similar fate and the only arrest was a totally innocent male.

 

[hell2bwith76]

I really do pity ur wife if u speak to her the way u speak to most females on this site. Speaks volumes how much of a prick u actually are !

Hark who regularly calls others nasty names ! You are a fine example of a dissatisfied woman. You will never never match my wife as a "woman" you poor example of a person.

 

[Tinkerbelle]

Hark who regularly calls others nasty names ! You are a fine example of a dissatisfied woman.

little man syndrome.
ur either Perving or slattin women SPEAKS VOLUMES

 

[hell2bwith76]

little man syndrome.
ur either Perving or slattin women SPEAKS VOLUMES

Only you and your clique .not everyone .

 

[Tinkerbelle]

Only you and your clique .not everyone .

and everyone who doesnt agree with u !!!

 

[hell2bwith76]

and everyone who doesnt agree with u !!!

Only you and the clique

 

[Moriarty]

I do find it funny.

If a man makes an assumption about a woman, if she is wearing revealing clothing or wearing to much makeup she can be classed as, lets say "Cheap".
Totally unacceptable by todays standards.

Yet a women calling all men toxic, violent, sexist and possibly rapists.
Perfectly acceptable.

 

[hell2bwith76]

I do find it funny.

If a man makes an assumption about a woman, if she is wearing revealing clothing or wearing to much makeup she can be classed as, lets say "Cheap".
Totally unacceptable by todays standards.

Yet a women calling all men toxic, violent, sexist and possibly rapists.
Perfectly acceptable.

Right on man

 

[SamBally]

In a patriarchal-led society, clearly still dominated by gender rather than based on merit, negative male attitudes towards females have obviously not advanced very much at all if the negative attitudes of some of the men commenting on this thread are anything to go by. Some extremely ignorant men still believe that it is still 1950.

Assume they have the right to describe ALL females (adult) as sexual objects or use derogatory sexualized language to describe females, a plaything just for their benefit, who dress to please only them and while constantly use demeaning language to describe ALL females in general terms.

These men do not allow females to voice their opinion of this issue because they do not deem a female's voice to be equal to theirs and constantly mansplain to shout them down and drown out their voice. In the context of this topic, it goes some way to explain why some men psychologically, or physically brutalize women and or brutally murder them.

A snapshot of the largest study of its kind.

Professors Rebecca and Russell Dobash, criminologists at The University of Manchester, spent ten years interviewing murderers serving life sentences in British prisons and conducted the biggest ever study of men who kill women.

Their research uncovered several unnerving societal issues. Most importantly, they found that many women are murdered by jealous, possessive, and controlling men. The ideas of entitlement bound up in toxic masculinity, are in some cases, deadly.

Importantly they also state "in the 1980s we used to lecture to the police about intimate partner murders and sexual murders and the pervading attitude was that either the women deserve it because of the way they dress or look, or it wasn't the perpetrator's fault and he was led on."

Doing the interviews was sometimes startling. How they talk about the murder, like "someone was killed," or "a knife came out," or saying "it died," about the woman, was quite disturbing. The men saw themselves as acted upon, and rarely the actor. Remorse was largely absent.

Edited to include study source.

 

[Deadpool]

Geordies are not strictly English ,or they don`t talk much English !

Keep digging that hole old bean

 

[TwoWhalesInAPool]

I do find it funny.

If a man makes an assumption about a woman, if she is wearing revealing clothing or wearing to much makeup she can be classed as, lets say "Cheap".
Totally unacceptable by todays standards.

Yet a women calling all men toxic, violent, sexist and possibly rapists.
Perfectly acceptable.

Women call out men who are 'toxic, violent, sexist and possibly rapist, for being toxic, violent, sexist and possibly rapist.'

Not every man, only the 'toxic, violent, sexist and possibly rapist ones.'

Easy to understand. Yes?

It does not help the narrative to say 'every man', which isn't the case at all. But it is the case if your agenda is to belittle the argument and step away from the reality.

A misogynistic belief is the 'every man' statement.

 

[hell2bwith76]

In a patriarchal-led society, clearly still dominated by gender rather than based on merit, negative male attitudes towards females have obviously not advanced very much at all if the negative attitudes of some of the men commenting on this thread are anything to go by. Some extremely ignorant men still believe that it is still 1950.

Assume they have the right to describe ALL females (adult) as sexual objects or use derogatory sexualized language to describe females, a plaything just for their benefit, who dress to please only them and while constantly use demeaning language to describe ALL females in general terms.

These men do not allow females to voice their opinion of this issue because they do not deem a female's voice to be equal to theirs and constantly mansplain to shout them down and drown out their voice. In the context of this topic, it goes some way to explain why some men psychologically, or physically brutalize women and or brutally murder them.

A snapshot of the largest study of its kind.

Professors Rebecca and Russell Dobash, criminologists at The University of Manchester, spent ten years interviewing murderers serving life sentences in British prisons and conducted the biggest ever study of men who kill women.

Their research uncovered several unnerving societal issues. Most importantly, they found that many women are murdered by jealous, possessive, and controlling men. The ideas of entitlement bound up in toxic masculinity, are in some cases, deadly.

Importantly they also state "in the 1980s we used to lecture to the police about intimate partner murders and sexual murders and the pervading attitude was that either the women deserve it because of the way they dress or look, or it wasn't the perpetrator's fault and he was led on."

Doing the interviews was sometimes startling. How they talk about the murder, like "someone was killed," or "a knife came out," or saying "it died," about the woman, was quite disturbing. The men saw themselves as acted upon, and rarely the actor. Remorse was largely absent.

Edited to include study source.

You are a Bigot miss ! You have just described the way that YOU consider all men to be like .Get a grip ,see a psychiaitrist with your "Male hating " obsessions." Make it soon please?.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Not every man, only the 'toxic, violent, sexist and possibly rapist ones.'

From what i have read it does seem that the female posters on this thread are doing just that ! calling ALL males what you just wrote.
The ones who have not written this have posted a clear " LIKE" mark against those sentiments.

 

[Saphire]

Not much is known yet about the murder of Sabina Nessa, no doubt it will all come out in time.

Meanwhile, the murder of Sarah Everard, another young women who was simply walking alone from a friends house, who was kidnapped, raped and murdered by a man prowling around looking for a female victim, is in the news as his trial is ongoing.

All the talk on this thread about women dressing in revealing clothes, who are doing it to entrap the males with no mind or morals of their own, this is how Sarah was dressed when she was raped and murdered.







Rape is ALWAYS about power not sex.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Sooo , did anyone suggest any ideas to prevent the "poor" treatment of women in our nsociety ?? I don`t think so .
Sorry about that OP ,some posters were too busy calling me plus all other males vile names . If that stops the actions of males against females good ! .

 

[hell2bwith76]

Rape is ALWAYS about power not sex.

There is solid proof /evidence of this then ? . So we just teach the little boys from birth that "power" isn`t something to aim for in life ?.

 

[Saphire]

From what i have read it does seem that the female posters on this thread are doing just that ! calling ALL males what you just wrote.
The ones who have not written this have posted a clear " LIKE" mark against those sentiments.

That's not true.
I don't know anyone here yet, have no idea of their likes and dislikes, but the posts I have read on this thread alone by the female posters are well balanced, not man hating.

You clearly have set in stone ideas about why women act and dress in a certain way, you however are wrong.
See the pic above that demonstrates that...and that is just ONE pic of ONE woman who was brutally murdered as she minded her own business.

There are thousands more women every year who are sexually ill treated by men, they are not 'asking for it'....no matter what clothes they happen to be wearing.

 

[Saphire]

Sooo , did anyone suggest any ideas to prevent the "poor" treatment of women in our nsociety ?? I don`t think so .
Sorry about that OP ,some posters were too busy calling me plus all other males vile names . If that stops the actions of males against females good ! .

Education, learning from example, understanding from a young age that even joking to their mates about 'slags' and girls that are 'up for it' is wrong.
Once the idea is planted in young kids that girls are sexual objects, it can manifest into an adult attitude that men can do whatever they like in certain situations....it's all about respect really.

 

[Saphire]

There is solid proof /evidence of this then ? . So we just teach the little boys from birth that "power" isn`t something to aim for in life ?.

Try teaching little boys to respect everyone, that would include women.

Power isn't wrong in itself, to sexually force someone because you have the power and they dont....is rape.

That's simple to understand, you are (and have done throughout) twisted what has been said.