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as stated before.

I don't waste my time researching conspiracy theories promoted by idiots like @Bad_Influence, because I am educated enough to know when lies, fakery, false stories are being promoted. It is easy to tell the stuff he posts is utter rubbish, because

1: He never includes any reputable scientific/medical weblinks

2: He never includes any reputable scientific/medical references

3: It is obvious he doesn't know how to do either.
 
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as stated before.

I don't waste my time researching conspiracy theories promoted by idiots like @Bad_Influence, because I am educated enough to know when lies, fakery, false stories are being promoted. It is easy to tell the stuff he posts is utter rubbish, because

1: He never includes any reputable scientific/medical weblinks

2: He never includes any reputable scientific/medical references

3: It is obvious he doesn't know how to do either.
Still avoiding that question huh? I wonder why.
 
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You’re avoidance is embarrassing now TwoWhales. Even Sam wouldn’t just ignore it. He’d stand by his principles.
 
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TwoWhales nitpicks over a picture but no mention of the media blackout, hoping to pretend it’s not real. He is embarrassing, no answer to a simple question, avoiding topics he knows are real, but shouts loud and posts smileys in the hope that people gone the real facts. Typical of his ilk.
Now back to the topic of the thread I hope.
 
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Forget the pictures, read the facts:

Tens of thousands took to the streets throughout France on Saturday to protest against the new coronavirus rules announced by the government earlier this week.
The controversial measures include mandatory vaccination for health workers and an obligation for citizens to bring in a health pass for most public places.
The health pass is given to those who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or have proof of a negative test taken within 48 hours.
In Paris, one demonstrator's blouse read "No to compulsory vaccination, freedom violated!", while another's placard said: "Macron, no to the health dictatorship."

In Marseille, protesters held a banner depicting faces of politicians, including French President Emmanuel Macron with Hitler's moustache.
An estimated 1,500 people demonstrated in the French capital.
In the southern cities of Montpellier and Marseille, authorities counted respectively 5,000 and 4,250 protesters.

Protesters also took to the streets of Toulouse, Nice, Lille, Strasbourg, Metz and other cities.
"We are not anti-vaccine at all. We just want everyone to have the freedom to be vaccinated or not. PCR tests may be enough and then we must keep them free," shopping centre employees Aurélie and Tiphaine told AFP at the Paris protest.

Several yellow vests protesters took part in the gatherings throughout the country.

"We are here for the demands of the yellow vests and the restrictions on freedoms. It's not another freedom-killing law that makes us go out into the street. We have always been in the street," said Jérôme Rodrigues, a prominent figure in the yellow vest movement.
The French government says the new measures are necessary to curb the fast-spreading Delta variant, which is fueling a wave of new infections in the country.

On Friday, public health authorities reported over 10,900 new cases -- that is almost a three-fold increase compared to mid-June.

Since Macron's announcements on Monday, vaccinations have spiked in France after a marked slowdown in recent weeks.
 

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A post about a few thousand antivax nutters on protest throughout a whole country, a country the size of France no less, is totally and utterly different than a photo showing hundreds of thousands at a parade celebrating the win of its World Cup team. These were antivax/antimask/covidiot nutter snowflakes protesting about 'their freedoms and other such nonsense', mentioned in the article posted above, and not scientists, doctors, nurses, health or scientific professionals, protesting about the same thing. And if you cannot see the difference in that, it is little wonder you have fallen for the cult of covidiots! And, in a country that size, their protests were miniscule and not worthy of the news. Anyway, giving covidiots a platform is a huge mistake and costs people their lives. The less their cowardly and dangerous actions are seen as 'newsworthy', the better.
 
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A post about a few thousand antivax nutters on protest throughout a whole country, a country the size of France no less, is totally and utterly different than a photo showing hundreds of thousands at a parade celebrating the win of its World Cup team. These were antivax/antimask/covidiot nutter snowflakes protesting about 'their freedoms and other such nonsense', mentioned in the article posted above, and not scientists, doctors, nurses, health or scientific professionals, protesting about the same thing. And if you cannot see the difference in that, it is little wonder you have fallen for the cult of covidiots! And, in a country that size, their protests were miniscule and not worthy of the news. Anyway, giving covidiots a platform is a huge mistake and costs people their lives. The less their cowardly and dangerous actions are seen as 'newsworthy', the better.
Covidiots, antivaxers, antimaskers, all words the left use to try to shut people down. Sorry TwuTiddlers, it’s not going to work.

And answer the question, or are you scared?
 
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A ‘few thousand’ you say TwoWhales? Well is seems your estimate is sadly lacking.


EMMANUEL MACRON has been forced into a humiliating U-turn after mass protests sparked over the introduction of the controversial 'health pass' on Saturday.
Hundreds of thousands of French protesters took to the streets yesterday to voice their anger at President Emmanuel Macron's latest COVID-19 'health pass' plans. Earlier this week, the French leader announced plans to roll out mandatory 'health passes' for all restaurants, bars, hospitals, shopping malls, trains, planes and other venues. The passes include data on Covid test results and vaccination status.
Protests against the plans took place across the country.
They called on Mr Macron to resign and threatened to boycott the health pass.
France is known as one of the most vaccine-sceptic countries in Western Europe.
Rallies turned violent in some cities like Nantes, where police deployed tear gas to disperse the demonstrators.
In Lyon, the police arrested nine demonstrators while in Lans-en-Vercors, a vaccination centre was ransacked on Saturday morning.
An estimated 114,000 people took part in the protests, according to the French Interior Ministry.
In response, Emmanuel Macron has climbed down on part of the health pass rules as he backtracked on its use in shopping centres.
On Sunday, Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire said that the passes will now only be required to enter malls with a surface area of more than 20,000 square metres.
He told the French press: "Business leaders are worried and I want to reassure them: We will show understanding."
Mr Macron is facing significant backlash for his handling of the Covid pandemic as he faces re-election next April.
He has recently cracked down on vaccine sceptics after he made vaccines mandatory for healthcare workers

Still think it’s unworthy of reporting?

And I’m still waiting for your answers on the vaccines.
 
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114,000 isn't hundreds of thousands, plural, tbf
Probably a good example of how things can be 'hyped' up though by the media, and, depending upon your bias, easily grasped as 'fact' because you want it to promote your own argument.
 
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114,000 isn't hundreds of thousands, plural, tbf
Probably a good example of how things can be 'hyped' up though by the media, and, depending upon your bias, easily grasped as 'fact' because you want it to promote your own argument.
So it’s enough to cause the President to back track but it’s not been reported here. These protests have been going on all week, and this is the first we, in this country, can read about it in the media.

As with the vaccines, no news coverage of the adverse reactions.

Nobody will ever convince me the media are open and balanced.
 
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Why isn't it reported in the UK?

I repeat.

'These were antivax/antimask/covidiot nutter snowflakes protesting about 'their freedoms and other such nonsense', mentioned in the article posted above, and not scientists, doctors, nurses, health or scientific professionals, protesting about the same thing. And if you cannot see the difference in that, it is little wonder you have fallen for the cult of covidiots! In a country that size, their protests were miniscule and not worthy of the news. Anyway, giving covidiots a platform is a huge mistake and costs people their lives. The less their cowardly and dangerous actions are seen as 'newsworthy', the better.'

Well done UK media in NOT reporting it.
 
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Why isn't it reported in the UK?

I repeat.

'These were antivax/antimask/covidiot nutter snowflakes protesting about 'their freedoms and other such nonsense', mentioned in the article posted above, and not scientists, doctors, nurses, health or scientific professionals, protesting about the same thing. And if you cannot see the difference in that, it is little wonder you have fallen for the cult of covidiots! In a country that size, their protests were miniscule and not worthy of the news. Anyway, giving covidiots a platform is a huge mistake and costs people their lives. The less their cowardly and dangerous actions are seen as 'newsworthy', the better.'

Well done UK media in NOT reporting it.
Answer the questions or just admit you daren’t.
 

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The inherent racism of anti-vaxx movements.


"We are currently experiencing a worldwide vaccination effort that’s being impeded by rising pockets of anti-vaccination sentiment. There has been a recent increase in anti-vaccination conspiracy theories, misinformation campaigns, and protests in various countries.

And while many accuse anti-vaxxers of a selfish disdain for the health and safety of others, there is an underlying aspect of these movements that need to be more widely recognized. Vaccine resistance movements have always been led by white, middle-class voices and promoted by structures of racial inequality.

The intrinsic racism of anti-vaccination movements began with their historical origin in the 19th century.

Inoculation originally referred to the older form of vaccination, where pus was taken from the pustule of someone with a mild form of smallpox and purposely scratched into the arm of a healthy person. This would ideally convey a mild form of the disease and thereby protect the recipient from more deadly forms.

This type of inoculation had its foundation in a number of non-western cultures before it was incorporated into western medical practice. Indeed, inoculation was practiced in China for centuries before it made its way to Europe, as well as in the Middle East and North Africa.

Its use in North America was initiated by the knowledge of an enslaved man, Onesimus, who famously taught the procedure to puritan minister Cotton Mather during a smallpox outbreak in the early 18th century. These non-western origins fuelled some anti-vaccination criticisms during the 19th century. Opponents to the practice declared it a “filthy, useless and dangerous rite” akin to using the “charms and incantations of an African savage.”

By the turn of the 20th century, the racialized language began to appear in anti-vaccination dialogues which, on the surface, had little to do with race. These racial slurs served the purposes of anti-vaccinationists who sought to discredit the practice.

One of the most potent examples of this was in 1920 when vocal anti-vaccination writer Charles Higgins published a book against vaccinations. Throughout this work, he consistently referred to vaccination as a “savage rite” performed by “the Medicine Man” on helpless innocent children. The racialized language utilized by these early anti-vaxxers was all the more potent when weaponized by white leaders of anti-vaccination leagues (or organizations).

Between 1860 and 1920, numerous anti-vaxx leagues were founded in Britain, the United States and Canada. One of their main arguments was that compulsory enforcement was a “tyrannical interference with the rightful liberties of the people,” an accusation often leveled at health officials attempting to increase vaccine uptake in the general public. These people used their social standing to loudly condemn perceived limitations of their rights, while blindly ignoring the systemic absence of the same freedoms for racialized and low-income communities...

...It’s not the white, middle- and upper-class anti-vaccination leaders who suffer most from diminished herd immunity and increased prevalence of vaccine-preventable illnesses. Such individuals are generally protected by the same social and racial privileges that have historically enabled them to continuously gain a large following.

...Through their actions, anti-vaxxers deliberately seek to increase the risk of infection in already vulnerable populations. We saw this in 2017 after an outbreak of measles in Minnesota among the Somali-American community in Minneapolis.

Anti-vaxxers staged two public meetings in the community, encouraging parents to avoid vaccination and pushed the false claim that the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine is linked to rising rates of autism. The result was a drastic reduction in MMR vaccination uptake between 2004 and 2014 —dropping from 92 percent to 42 percent — and one of the largest measles outbreaks in the state in three decades...

...In the end, the individuals who bear the brunt of an increased burden of disease are those from historically vulnerable communities whose concerns continue to be co-opted and overshadowed by anti-vaccination activists."


Paula Larsson is in her final year of a Doctor of Philosophy degree at the University of Oxford. Her research focuses on the history of medicine, with a specific interest in how historical social and racial factors influence medical equity today. She is currently writing a monograph on the history of vaccine policy in Canada. In addition to her research, Paula is incredibly passionate about Public Engagement, and in 2018 she co-founded Uncomfortable Oxford, a public engagement project that highlights legacies of historical inequality within the city of Oxford.

Paula holds a Bachelor of Arts (Hons) from Mount Royal University and two Master's degrees. The University of Oxford, Master of Science / Medical Anthropology. The University of Calgary, Master of Arts / History
 
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The gov’ts own figures today said 60% of hospitalisations are fully vaccinated. 60%!!!!
What exactly to the vaccine do, because it sure doesn’t protect you from Covid.
 

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Testing​

Testing is where we do a test to see who has coronavirus. Some people are tested more than once. There were 1,041,099 tests reported on 18 July 2021. This shows a decrease of -0.8% compared to the previous 7 days. Between 12 July 2021 and 18 July 2021, there have been 7,196,324 tests.

Cases​

A confirmed case is someone who has tested positive for coronavirus. 39,950 new people had a confirmed positive test result reported on 19 July 2021. Between 13 July 2021 and 19 July 2021, 322,170 people had a confirmed positive test result. This shows an increase of 41.2% compared to the previous 7 days.

Vaccinations​

Vaccines are currently given in 2 doses, at least 21 days apart. 46,314,039 people had been given the first dose by the end of 18 July 2021. 36,099,727 people had been given a second dose by the end of 18 July 2021.

Healthcare​

Some people with coronavirus have to go into hospital. 742 people with coronavirus went into hospital on 13 July 2021. Between 7 July 2021 and 13 July 2021, 4,317 went into hospital with coronavirus. This shows an increase of 39.5% compared to the previous 7 days. There were 4,094 patients in hospital with coronavirus on 16 July 2021. Some people in the hospital need to use a special device called a mechanical ventilator to help them breathe. There were 573 coronavirus patients in hospital beds with a mechanical ventilator on 16 July 2021.


Deaths​

There were 19 deaths within 28 days of a positive test for coronavirus reported on 19 July 2021.
Between 13 July 2021 and 19 July 2021, there have been 296 deaths within 28 days of a positive coronavirus test. This shows an increase of 48.0% compared to the previous 7 days.

Gov UK.
 

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Wooooooosh.

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Ph.D. Two Master's degrees. Bachelor of Arts (Hons).

"The inherent racism of anti-Vaxx movements".


Uneducated random online who also doesn't understand statistics.

"Pmsl"
 
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