Absolutely useless GP's.

[Saphire]

To Penny,
I feel so sorry for your friend, though obviously it isn't sympathy he needed, it was care.
Dr's should not be judge and jury, they are (or should be) there to care for the sick, not make moral judgments on their lifestyle.

Perhaps if your friend had had decent care at the point of contact, which is usually the GP, he wouldn't have gone on to have so many other health issues.

It's a bloody disgrace the way GP's perform nowadays, they don't seem to care at all...in my surgery they don't even show any recognition for the majority of their patients that have attended for decades.
One of our GP's is an outspoken campaigner for an issue that gets a lot of publicity.
There is a standing joke that the only way his patients ever get to see or hear him, is on local news channels.

 

[PennyDreadful2]

To provide a little bit of balance to the debate, my own Doctor's surgery have been real good. Infact a locum at the surgery saved my life, by discovering irregulations in my blood. She sent me off for an ultrasound which ultimately saved my life.
During the dark days of the pandemic, my hernia became displaced and I was in discomfort. I was able to make a face to face appointment at my surgery, my Doctor examined me and recommended that I go to hospital to be checked out.
And recently, my Doctor sent me to hospital, for a follow up on my Bell's Palsy. I would not have been diagnosed, if I had not gone to the Hospital.

It seems to be hit and miss though, whilst my Doctor's surgery has been pretty good, my partner does not receive a good service from his own surgery. They are still doing phone consultations, which have proved to be less than satisfactory to say the least. One Doctor didn't even phone my partner back, after he made an appointment.

 

[Saphire]

To provide a little bit of balance to the debate, my own Doctor's surgery have been real good. Infact a locum at the surgery saved my life, by discovering irregulations in my blood. She sent me off for an ultrasound which ultimately saved my life.
During the dark days of the pandemic, my hernia became displaced and I was in discomfort. I was able to make a face to face appointment at my surgery, my Doctor examined me and recommended that I go to hospital to be checked out.
And recently, my Doctor sent me to hospital, for a follow up on my Bell's Palsy. I would not have been diagnosed, if I had not gone to the Hospital.

It seems to be hit and miss though, whilst my Doctor's surgery has been pretty good, my partner does not receive a good service from his own surgery. They are still doing phone consultations, which have proved to be less than satisfactory to say the least. One Doctor didn't even phone my partner back, after he made an appointment.

I do agree, not all GP's can be tarnished with the same brush. I'm sure many are dedicated and do actually care more for their patients than their pockets.

I also think that talking about GP's who are less than useless, is a good way to bring their lack of care into the public domain....there are enough cover ups in the NHS without the patients adding to it.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Sadly it’s not only GP’s but a large portion of the NHS, not ALL but definitely the majority.
Patients are being passed from pillar to post, test results being lost (if the tests are performed at all), and communication seems to be a thing of the past.
GP’s have spent so long hiding behind the pandemic they seem to have forgotten how to do their job. Or maybe the fortunes they made by sticking needles into folk has meant they no longer need to work.

What`s your opinions on Care workers then ?

 

[hell2bwith76]

I don't deny that some practices are worse than others, but I speak the truth, and the vast majority of people I know say the exact same thing Nightsky.

The odd troll, who is just looking for forum attention, won't change that.

You don`t know many people then eh ?

 

[hell2bwith76]

Most GP surgeries are using "Assistant" medical personel.
They have degrees in biology as expected, but dont have to do the full qualifications to be registered as "Doctors" with a GP license.

I wonder where all the GP's have gone.
I mean 2 years ago, we had the ability to get an appointment, usually within a week.
So where are they all?

Have they resigned?
Retired?
Moved away?
Closed thier surgeries?

I'm a bit baffled, have to look into it a bit.

Gone back to their natural place of birth after Brexit was taken on .

 

[hell2bwith76]

There is a shortage of doctors, so we are supplementing with foreign doctors who are often not fully qualified. I know of at least one person who has died because of misdiagnosis.
The health service is a vital part of our society and needs far more money invested in it. For one thing, all medical students should not have to pay a single penny towards their training. The NHS was intended to provide medical treatment for those on low incomes. We need to get back to that. Anyone who needs treatment for something which is not a health problem, should pay for it.
I think everyone in this country is demoralised at the moment. Our government has had to deal with crisis after crisis, and has not stuck to the promises it made.

You are right about "this " Government as recent news and scandal has proven.

 

[hell2bwith76]

We can thank the EU for that - things started changing back then, slowly but surely.
Got worse over the years, then Covid arrived, and total chaos ensued.
Same in other European countries, besides Germany ( if I recall correctly).
The ratio of their staff/hospital beds /pro population, seem to be higher than the rest of Europe .

As above.
It's the Great Reset (along with banking and the rest).
I wonder how the elderly manage with online appointments ?
They don't all have access to the internet.

Well done to them.

I prefer online appointments if it`s a routine check up or a minor complaint. The way traffic is today it`s far easier to lift a phone than struglgle in gridlock for 20 minutes to get to my surgery which is just 2 miles away !. Cost a bloody fortune in petrol too .

 

[hell2bwith76]

Define 'minor complaint' & 'check up' ?

2 miles is a fortune in petrol?
What car do you drive, a Ferrari?

IF you read all of the post in detail you may notice that i mentioned "traffic gridlock" .Today petrol is £10 a gallon as far as i can tell. Using it up sitting in a traffic queue soon gobbles the petrol up. My car is a 16oo cc mini sporty type but no way a posh one .
Now to deal with querie number 1 ( in reverse order .
Our surgery reviews a patients Tablets every 6 months. Just one of my medical conditions is diabetes 2. For that i take several tablets a day. ok so far ? you still with me ?. I also have a Heart condition ,yet a few more pills daily ,ok ?. I can talk about the pills on phone quite easily without a need to "see" the Nurse Specialist . Only if i have problems with the tablets would i need to have a face to face visit ,and that would be readily given. That`s my idea of a " check up".

Minor complaint is something for which a GP can diagnose without having to see the patient .Such as Constipation or the other . Womens complaints which they usually know they need Antibiotics for . e.g. Cystitis ,urinal troubles . If they have had them prior and had pills for them ( Antibiotics) then a GP will just send a Prescription to a Pharmacy. No big deal . Quite often a patient will go to their GP and give the GP their diagnosis . It`s common.

That was the beauty of Covid and Lockdown . Dam roads were clear of traffic ! Pleasant ,once more ,to drive without stress.
Bring back Lockdown !.

 

[LiveWales]

I have no problem at my Doctors Surgery

i eat my words sad as that is, i cant get an appontment till August 14th ffs

 

[liam222]

Most doctors work part time these days, which is kind of a new thing

 

[hell2bwith76]

i eat my words sad as that is, i cant get an appontment till August 14th ffs

If you read any news then you will know that there is a national shortage of GP`s now. I`ve never had a problem at my own surgery until mnow ,when getting an appointment is a bit hit & miss. I can`t complain about th GP skills though and they are using qualified Nursing Specialists to treat specific conditions ,e.g. Diabetes . which don`t require the excellent skills of a GP to treat.
Most important get a Government in who looks after OUR NHS ! Rich people can always get treated by paying privately .

 

[hell2bwith76]

And if the NHS was managed correctly, instead of pouring billions down the drain, it would not be underfunded. It has wasted more money on needless management levels and positions than I could name.

And of course YOU know all of that for a fact eh ? ...busy getting info from Conspirators United ,no doubt. You should read how high the Covid patients have gone up in hospitals to realise where the shortages come from . They are crafty enough to hide those facts in the Conspirators manuals .

 

[hell2bwith76]

And if the NHS was managed correctly

ROFL !! says one who regularly counted from 2018 to 2019 as 4 years ! hahahahahaha .Matey ,you really are a joke .

 

[liam222]

I read recently that most GPs are now female and females are more likely to work part time, when GPs were mostly men, very few of them worked part time

 

[hell2bwith76]

I read recently that most GPs are now female and females are more likely to work part time, when GPs were mostly men, very few of them worked part time

Try thinking ...3 female GP`s is more than equal to 1 male GP eh ?. The surgeries cost money to run ,they don`t run on empty !.

 

[Saphire]

i eat my words sad as that is, i cant get an appontment till August 14th ffs

I hope it's nothing serious.

It would be a miracle if our surgery offered an appointment to actually SEE a GP face to face.
I saw a friend yesterday I haven't seen since pre Covid.
She looked ill and was using a walking stick. She has been diagnosed as having early onset Parkinson disease.
She had to pay privately to get the diagnosis, because she couldn't get an appointment at the surgery, even though she knew something was going badly wrong with her health.
She still hasn't seen a GP, and she saw the private consultant months ago.