Thoughts on the latest news about the Vaccine?

[Bad_Influence]

Just one final querie to Bad about the Covid19 question. I wanted to understand why he and others claim that the "Covid19 vaccine " isn`t a vaccine at all. On searching a Google type site i found this . Can you or anyone who claims that the Vaccine isn`t a vaccine point out to me what indicates that ?.
"A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.[1] A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins. The agent stimulates the body's immune system to recognize the agent as a threat, destroy it, and to further recognize and destroy any of the microorganisms associated with that agent that it may encounter in the future. Vaccines can be prophylactic (to prevent or ameliorate the effects of a future infection by a natural or "wild" pathogen), or therapeutic (to fight a disease that has already occurred, such as cancer).

Read this forum. I’m not going to try to explain because I don’t understand the technicalities properly, but I know the jab is not designed to do what a vaccine is supposed to do.
Others here have explained it far better than I could, and I’m not going to go hunting for every medical site or report the I’ve read on the topic.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Read this forum. I’m not going to try to explain because I don’t understand the technicalities properly, but I know the jab is not designed to do what a vaccine is supposed to do.
Others here have explained it far better than I could, and I’m not going to go hunting for every medical site or report the I’ve read on the topic.

That`s ok it`s complex from what i can read.

 

[Whiskers]

So you don't think the vaccines are worth the bother?

 

[Bad_Influence]

So you don't think the vaccines are worth the bother?

No. But that’s just my opinion. I don’t expect anyone to make their decision based on my views.

 

[Dong]

No. But that’s just my opinion. I don’t expect anyone to make their decision based on my views.

thank the Lord for that!

 

[Bad_Influence]

thank the Lord for that!

I merely expect people to have sense to gather all the information possible, instead of blindly believing the tripe fed to us by the media. Mentioning no names.

 

[SamBally]

Then say but I can't be bothered to show you where I got mine.

 

[Bad_Influence]

Then say but I can't be bothered to show you where I got mine.

So you ever even try to make sense?

 

[Wojcik]

Do i think the Virus is real? Yes. When it's all said and done, can this be classed as a pandemic? I'm not entirely sure. Perhaps it was a pandemic, but we've become more resistant than we thought, which may be a positive to take from all of this. Other countries and nations have been affected worse than we have, so it may vary from people to people. We all react differently, and recover from different things.
Do i believe in the severity of it? At the start i was worried about me and my family, but as time has passed i feel more comfortable with it, as i think we've got our finger on the pulse. It's fear of the unknown. Also, on the severity side of things, I'm confused. I'm told one thing one day, and then told a completely different story the next, so it's difficult to know, when information given is so mixed and changes on a daily basis.

Thoughts on the vaccine? I think it's a good thing that we have something. And it's encouraging that it seems to be working in a positive direction.

 

[Wojcik]

So you don't think the vaccines are worth the bother?

If you have a financial investment in them, absolutely. On an ordinary person level, i think they're worth the bother on a psychological level. It provides a psychological comfort knowing that you have some kind of protection against this disease. It may not be 100% accurate, but we've always been a species that sees anything above 50% as being good odds.

 

[LadyOnArooftop]

223 Covid deaths yesterday. Is there anyone else who believed in the vaccine now starting to lose faith in it?

 

[megs233]

223 Covid deaths yesterday. Is there anyone else who believed in the vaccine now starting to lose faith in it?

Question I like ask is when saw numbers creeping up ,are theses ppl who have not been vaccinated?.

 

[BronzeSquirrel]

A better question at this moment in time might be to ask, how can I make sure my immune system is in tip top condition and as strong as possible? Because the immune response to COVID is what kills.

 

[TwoWhalesInAPool]

223 Covid deaths yesterday. Is there anyone else who believed in the vaccine now starting to lose faith in it?

Of course not. My belief is even stronger now as the disease rips through and sadly kills many of the unvaccinated population.

Unfortunately, the unvaccinated are spreading Covid at an alarming rate among their unvaccinated fellows, taking up hospital beds and services. This is keeping the spread of the disease going because they can also pass on to those who are vaccinated. But the chances of being seriously ill, needing hospitalisation, ventilator etc, or dying from Covid if you are double vaccinated is extremely low. Except for those who are vulnerable

According to the ONS the numbers of those vaccinated account for only 1.2% of deaths due to Covid. Remember 'some deaths are expected in vaccinated individuals as the number of people who are vaccinated is high and no vaccine is 100% effective.' - quote ONS

Coronavirus (COVID-19) latest insights - Office for National Statistics

 

[TwoWhalesInAPool]

Question I like ask is when saw numbers creeping up ,are theses ppl who have not been vaccinated?.

Depressingly yes.

be careful out there. the plague carriers are going about, unmasked, not washing hands, or using sanitiser, as if nothing is happening. As if we haven't spent nearly two years trying to keep this hellish disease at bay, or not kill our family, friends, others, by spreading it to them.

 

[Saphire]

It's worrying that the deaths are rising again.
I am not losing faith in the vaccine, because the data available shows that the largest % of people who are in hospital with Covid are the unvaccinated.

I also think it's time the government acted quickly in reintroducing mandatory mask wearing in public places.

From the BBC news 14th Sept.
"Fully vaccinated people are much less likely to die with Covid-19 than those who aren't, or have had only one dose, figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show.
Out of more than 51,000 Covid deaths in England between January and July 2021, only 256 occurred after two doses.
They were mostly people at very high risk from illness from Covid-19.
The figures show the high degree of protection from the vaccines against illness and death, the ONS said."

 

[Brass]

Good news!!

If you've tested positive for covid in the past, you have natural immunity, which is superior to the experimental injection they're pushing.

That means that 45,000,000 people are immune to covid.

 

[Saphire]

Anyone can take data and shuffle it around to suit their own agenda.
The ONS and the BMA have released updated figures regularly, if you ever watch the regular Downing street updates, the figures and charts are shown monthly, sometimes weekly, certainly not from January, where obviously the unvaccinated would be high in the death rates.

The vaccine isn't infallible, no vaccine is, but I think I prefer to get my info from trained medical experts, scientists and NHS workers, rather than some drony voiced man on a video who is citing data from the ONS figures dating back from January.

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Edit...this was in reply to a post who quoted my own post, the other post seems to have been deleted since.

 

[Altair]

Anyone can take data and shuffle it around to suit their own agenda.
The ONS and the BMA have released updated figures regularly, if you ever watch the regular Downing street updates, the figures and charts are shown monthly, sometimes weekly, certainly not from January, where obviously the unvaccinated would be high in the death rates.

The vaccine isn't infallible, no vaccine is, but I think I prefer to get my info from trained medical experts, scientists and NHS workers, rather than some drony voiced man on a video who is citing data from the ONS figures dating back from January.

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Edit...this was in reply to a post who quoted my own post, the other post seems to have been deleted since.

How about there was NO Virus to start with?....Common Cold Virus could have been used in Data. Hmm.!

 

[Saphire]

How about there was NO Virus to start with?....Common Cold Virus could have been used in Data. Hmm.!

And how about if over 5 million people just pretended to die of Covid19.