Thoughts on the latest news about the Vaccine?

[Bad_Influence]

You mean I pointed out you presented "Bad_Influence facts" to make that point? In other words, you lied. Which you also didn't respond to directly. Then you still expect to be taken seriously. Laughable.

As a leftwinger and someone who supports mandatory vaccinations, you are addressing the wrong person with your constant digs and made-up facts against "ethnic minorities" and the "left".

And still you ignore the question by claiming “facts”. You are a typical leftie, you throw lots of dirt (in the form of lies and personal insults?) in the hope that you don’t have to make a point that you can back you with figures or evidence.

 

[Bad_Influence]

The problem is for all the refuseniks. Like you.

Just answer the question will you? Stop dodging it like a kid trying to skip PE.

 

[Dong]

Just answer the question will you? Stop dodging it like a kid trying to skip PE.

The answer is that many more people are dying and who avoided the jab than those that did the right thing. Common sense needed here.

 

[Bad_Influence]

The answer is that many more people are dying and who avoided the jab than those that did the right thing. Common sense needed here.

Just answer the question please. Do you believe that you’re safe because you have had the vaccine? Yes or no?

And while you’re at it, answer this:


If the Indian variant is running rife through the country. How do they test for it 'specifically'?

A normal PCR test (dodgy as it is), can't tell one strain from another. The lateral flow test can't either.

So how do they 'know'?

 

[Dong]

Just answer the question please. Do you believe that you’re safe because you have had the vaccine? Yes or no?

And while you’re at it, answer this:


If the Indian variant is running rife through the country. How do they test for it 'specifically'?

A normal PCR test (dodgy as it is), can't tell one strain from another. The lateral flow test can't either.

So how do they 'know'?9

Just answer the question please. Do you believe that you’re safe because you have had the vaccine? Yes or no?

And while you’re at it, answer this:


If the Indian variant is running rife through the country. How do they test for it 'specifically'?

A normal PCR test (dodgy as it is), can't tell one strain from another. The lateral flow test can't either.

So how do they 'know'?

yes! I believe I am safe. The info we get says that. Also, the jab covers all known variations, so far.
get it done, you wimp. And join those who nowadays have an easy mind

 

[megs233]

yes! I believe I am safe. The info we get says that. Also, the jab covers all known variations, so far.
get it done, you wimp. And join those who nowadays have an easy mind

AGAIN Surely it is up the individual if they want it or not ,their decision no one else's business..

 

[Dong]

AGAIN Surely it is up the individual if they want it or not ,their decision no one else's business..

I's my business if he is going around dropping viruses everywhere he goes.

 

[megs233]

I's my business if he is going around dropping viruses everywhere he goes.

no it not you need to get a new hobby

 

[SamBally]

And still you ignore the question by claiming “facts”. You are a typical leftie, you throw lots of dirt (in the form of lies and personal insults?) in the hope that you don’t have to make a point that you can back you with figures or evidence.

I am beginning to suspect all is not well in your tiny bubble. I hope you visit your GP and ask for an expert's opinion.

You claimed "95% of white people have had the vaccine", your exact words not mine and which is a blatant lie.

In case you didn't understand it the first time, it is a blatant lie that "95% of white people have had the Covid vaccine."

Now you are accusing me of being "a typical leftie" for challenging your blatant lie, while you accuse me off distorting facts.

Your entire UK chat career revolves around obsessing over "ethnic minorities" and "lefties" and constantly lying while you do it.

You can personalize it all you want however I will still air my opinion within the rules of the site.

 

[Bad_Influence]

yes! I believe I am safe. The info we get says that. Also, the jab covers all known variations, so far.
get it done, you wimp. And join those who nowadays have an easy mind

Stop worrying about me then. I can’t harm you so give up trying to spread your nonsensical scare tactics.

 

[Bad_Influence]

I am beginning to suspect all is not well in your tiny bubble. I hope you visit your GP and ask for an expert's opinion.

You claimed "95% of white people have had the vaccine", your exact words not mine and which is a blatant lie.

In case you didn't understand it the first time, it is a blatant lie that "95% of white people have had the Covid vaccine."

Now you are accusing me of being "a typical leftie" for challenging your blatant lie, while you accuse me off distorting facts.

Your entire UK chat career revolves around obsessing over "ethnic minorities" and "lefties" and constantly lying while you do it.

You can personalize it all you want however I will still air my opinion within the rules of the site.

Oh nice switch of tactics. I’m almost impressed.
The point of that statement was to show how lefties are happy to demand everyone gets vaccinated..... unless it is regarding a certain section of our society. I’m sure you knew this but instead chose to pick at the numbers to deflect from the truth huh?

 

[Dong]

no it not you need to get a new hobby

This is my new hobby. I used to breed leeches but.........they suck.

 

[SamBally]

Oh nice switch of tactics. I’m almost impressed.
The point of that statement was to show how lefties are happy to demand everyone gets vaccinated..... unless it is regarding a certain section of our society. I’m sure you knew this but instead chose to pick at the numbers to deflect from the truth huh?

A few weeks ago you were angrily and loudly arguing "herd immunity" is the only realistic solution to Covid.

Yet you didn't even understand that to achieve herd immunity it would involve and ALWAYS has involved (historically) a national rollout of a vaccine.

Now you are arguing "lefties" are demanding "white people" get vaccinated and not "ethnic minorities".

You manipulate every single topic on these boards into either an "ethnic minority" issue or a "leftie" issue and when both are totally irrelevant.

You can't provide a single shred of evidence to support your stance and when challenged on your made-up facts and figures type "nice switch of tactics". The "game" that only you play in your head.

And all while you yourself refuse to get the vaccine, because you don't "trust" it, to speed up that "herd immunity" process.

 

[Bad_Influence]

A few weeks ago you were angrily and loudly arguing "herd immunity" is the only realistic solution to Covid.

Yet you didn't even understand that to achieve herd immunity it would involve and ALWAYS has involved (historically) a national rollout of a vaccine.

Now you are arguing "lefties" are demanding "white people" get vaccinated and not "ethnic minorities".

You manipulate every single topic on these boards into either an "ethnic minority" issue or a "leftie" issue and when both are totally irrelevant.

You can't provide a single shred of evidence to support your stance and when challenged on your made-up facts and figures type "nice switch of tactics". The "game" that only you play in your head.

And all while you yourself refuse to get the vaccine, because you don't "trust" it, to speed up that "herd immunity" process.

I said herd immunity was the best way, not the only way forward, but once we started the lockdown it had to be seen though to the end, not do half measures.

Also, you only have to read any social media to see lefties demanding everyone be vaccinated but then defending certain communities right to ignore it. I’m only surprised a few haven’t spun themselves into the ground by changing their mind depending on who they are talking to. Let’s start with yourself shall we?
1. Do you think everyone should be vaccinated?
2. Do you think someone should have the right to refuse the jab if their faith/religion/belief system tells them they shouldn’t?

And yes, I refused to get the vaccine, partly because I don’t trust it, partly because I won’t be conned by the mass-hysteria/scaremongering that has been forced onto us by the media, and partly because it remains personal choice.

 

[hell2bwith76]

I said herd immunity was the best way, not the only way forward, but once we started the lockdown it had to be seen though to the end, not do half measures.

Also, you only have to read any social media to see lefties demanding everyone be vaccinated but then defending certain communities right to ignore it. I’m only surprised a few haven’t spun themselves into the ground by changing their mind depending on who they are talking to. Let’s start with yourself shall we?
1. Do you think everyone should be vaccinated?
2. Do you think someone should have the right to refuse the jab if their faith/religion/belief system tells them they shouldn’t?

And yes, I refused to get the vaccine, partly because I don’t trust it, partly because I won’t be conned by the mass-hysteria/scaremongering that has been forced onto us by the media, and partly because it remains personal choice.

Pardon me for being a bit thick but ,to avoid having to reply to every post on this topic ,are you saying ( which is how i read it ) that the whole Covid19 issue is just a "con"? Simple question so just a simple answer will suffice thanks .

 

[Bad_Influence]

Pardon me for being a bit thick but ,to avoid having to reply to every post on this topic ,are you saying ( which is how i read it ) that the whole Covid19 issue is just a "con"? Simple question so just a simple answer will suffice thanks .

Obviously I’m not saying anything of the sort.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Obviously I’m not saying anything of the sort.

It`s not very obvious to me . Your posts have all been suggestive that Covid19 is a regular Virus like a nasty cold or a mild Flu which most people can shake off fairly easily ,even the elderly. If this is your opinion then fine ,at least i`m not slating anyone for not agreeing with me .
I think i prefer a nasty cold to a deadly Virus and ( unless the evil forces have gripped our Governments all over). of course there is a chance that something more sinister is happening. ! I`m not so stupid as to dismiss the idea outright. Stranger things have happened.
Odd at this time too that the sightings of UFO`s by top class pilots and military seem to have increased to an alarming level. Hmmm ,worth a thought eh?

 

[Bad_Influence]

It`s not very obvious to me . Your posts have all been suggestive that Covid19 is a regular Virus like a nasty cold or a mild Flu which most people can shake off fairly easily ,even the elderly. If this is your opinion then fine ,at least i`m not slating anyone for not agreeing with me .
I think i prefer a nasty cold to a deadly Virus and ( unless the evil forces have gripped our Governments all over). of course there is a chance that something more sinister is happening. ! I`m not so stupid as to dismiss the idea outright. Stranger things have happened.
Odd at this time too that the sightings of UFO`s by top class pilots and military seem to have increased to an alarming level. Hmmm ,worth a thought eh?

Do I think Covid is real? Of course I do.
Does it kill? Yes.
Do I accept it’s a lot worse than the flu? For a small minority yes, but a vast majority don’t even know they have it.
Have the numbers of deaths been massively inflated? Certainly. For instance, a person could be killed in a traffic accident, bug because they have had a positive covid test within 28 days their death is included in the covid figures (even if is was a false positive result).
Do I think the pharmaceutical companies (among others) are making fortunes out of this? Yes.
Do I think many businesses will be bought on the cheap in the coming 12 months. Yes
Are the media to blame for creating panic and fear? Undoubtedly.
Is the vaccine safe? Nobody know the answer to that one unfortunately. Only time will tell. But as they have a few million test subjects at least they should have accurate results in the coming years.
Is the vaccine really a vaccine? No. Not it any sense of the word ‘vaccine’.

Hopefully that clears up my stance on covid.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Do I think Covid is real? Of course I do.
Does it kill? Yes.
Do I accept it’s a lot worse than the flu? For a small minority yes, but a vast majority don’t even know they have it.
Have the numbers of deaths been massively inflated? Certainly. For instance, a person could be killed in a traffic accident, bug because they have had a positive covid test within 28 days their death is included in the covid figures (even if is was a false positive result).
Do I think the pharmaceutical companies (among others) are making fortunes out of this? Yes.
Do I think many businesses will be bought on the cheap in the coming 12 months. Yes
Are the media to blame for creating panic and fear? Undoubtedly.
Is the vaccine safe? Nobody know the answer to that one unfortunately. Only time will tell. But as they have a few million test subjects at least they should have accurate results in the coming years.
Is the vaccine really a vaccine? No. Not it any sense of the word ‘vaccine’.

Hopefully that clears up my stance on covid.

I think that does explain clearly your view on the subject. It`s easy enough for even me to understand ,all these statistics and data evidence just complicates everything for mere mortals such as I.
Thank you.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Just one final querie to Bad about the Covid19 question. I wanted to understand why he and others claim that the "Covid19 vaccine " isn`t a vaccine at all. On searching a Google type site i found this . Can you or anyone who claims that the Vaccine isn`t a vaccine point out to me what indicates that ?.
"A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.[1] A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins. The agent stimulates the body's immune system to recognize the agent as a threat, destroy it, and to further recognize and destroy any of the microorganisms associated with that agent that it may encounter in the future. Vaccines can be prophylactic (to prevent or ameliorate the effects of a future infection by a natural or "wild" pathogen), or therapeutic (to fight a disease that has already occurred, such as cancer).