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[hell2bwith76]

Schools dont teach kids these days, they normalise them.
Socialisation is the only way for them to become individuals.
Question?

I get it . People who have learned how to socialise are all individuals ?. Sounds a bit odd to me but hey , when we get a Socialist state everyone will be an "individual"

 

[Moriarty]

I get it . People who have learned how to socialise are all individuals ?. Sounds a bit odd to me but hey , when we get a Socialist state everyone will be an "individual"

The dichotomy of socialisation
To be a "Normal" individual in the world, one not on behavioural extremes one must be socialised.
But if you socialise society then you magnify the extremes due to in group/out group psychology and manipulating the "Disgust" mechanism.

Socialism in its many forms killed hundreds of millions in the 19-20th centuries.
The normalisation of wealth is the problem, not the normalisation of rights.
Only by a state mandated normalisation of wealth do we see the extremes we saw in Stalin's USSR or Mao's China which led to those deaths.

Am I right or is it debatable?
I dont know


For Disgust and its psychological impact on politics, I would look up Jonathan Haidt, he did some great work on it.

 

[hell2bwith76]

I think that real violence is a Genetic condition. A quick example is that a few /many years ago a young man ,aged 18,was kicked to death on his own front lawn ! in front of his Parents and a younger brother. He had a bright future with a local store and was a Trainee manager. His parents were "different " ,they were Polish !. The leader of the gang who did this foul deed came from a family of similar mindset. They were all extremely violent .A parent went to prison for GBH. Even the Mother ( youngish) was violent .She had stabbed a boyfriend in earlier years ,He didn`t die though.
The kid hid in his attic for a few days but eventually the police caught him. The family of the dead boy/young man had to move away to another area. Thankfully the parents & the kid who did the deed died before killing someone else . Only 1 person in that whole family tree wasn`t like that ,and he`s a nice man ,married with chil;dren now and a work mate of mine ( when i was working ). At least 1 seed /gene lost the violent streak.

 

[Moriarty]

It's hugely debatable Hell.
The data we have is that kids who aren't sufficiently socialised by the age of 3 or 4 tend to, with high degree's of probability go on to become violent offenders.
Thats pure stats.
However, there are also data sets which view data as purely arbitrary.
Usually when modified for different variables.
It depends on measurement techniques to study and psychologists tend to infer bias in their questioning sometimes to prove a point they want to make, other times to ensure they get funded.
Bad science but when most is government funded there is always an agenda.
Which is why Peer review is so important, that however has become corrupted to.

 

[Ingrid1965]

European Contest Fooball is comming..... Who will Win?

 

[hell2bwith76]

It's hugely debatable Hell.
The data we have is that kids who aren't sufficiently socialised by the age of 3 or 4 tend to, with high degree's of probability go on to become violent offenders.
Thats pure stats.
However, there are also data sets which view data as purely arbitrary.
Usually when modified for different variables.
It depends on measurement techniques to study and psychologists tend to infer bias in their questioning sometimes to prove a point they want to make, other times to ensure they get funded.
Bad science but when most is government funded there is always an agenda.
Which is why Peer review is so important, that however has become corrupted to.

I had no socialising when i was 3 or 4 as my Father was killed in WW2 in Germany. Mother did her best to bring 4 boys up ,me being the youngest. Oddly enough my character is quite mild ,always has been .All the kids at school that i remember as bullies were ones who had most socialising !.
My opinion ,too much emphasis on "socialising " and not enough on how to behave and not form "gangs". just saying .

 

[Amaani]

No and it’s about time prople stopped blaming games and films. First of all it the parents duty to make sure what the children are playing/watching. It’s also their responsibility to ensure their children learn from right nd wrong. We live in a time where very few people take responsibility now and are quick to blame everything else

 

[Poco_Loco]

No and it’s about time prople stopped blaming games and films. First of all it the parents duty to make sure what the children are playing/watching. It’s also their responsibility to ensure their children learn from right nd wrong. We live in a time where very few people take responsibility now and are quick to blame everything else

Is it really possible to shield them from it though ?

Yes teach them right and wrong but "Snap Behaviour" often isn't as simple as that.

 

[Ingrid1965]

James Bulger age 2, killers...... Robert Thompson/Jon Venables both age 10
1993

 

[paolinho]

violent video games should cease to exist... in my opinion

 

[Miss_Understanding]

there’s many many people that play video games that are never violent. Just like there’s many violent people that have never played video games. I think when someone is violent, looking into whether or not they’ve played video games is just looking for an excuse for them being bad. Some people are just bad

 

[Danny84]

No. Except FIFA, I have launched my mouse into the wall before now playing that lol

 

[Ingrid1965]

Gaming addiction is the compulsion to play video games (either on- or offline) to such an extent that it has negative effects upon your life, and being unable to stop playing even if you wish to. As with any addiction, it is fundamentally a disorder of the brain’s reward centres, which creates an abnormal level of certain chemicals (including dopamine, associated with pleasurable feelings) in the brain: addicts will experience an excess of dopamine when they play games – thus creating a sensation of happiness and wellbeing – and on the other hand will suffer from a deficiency thereof when they are unable to play, drastically lowering their mood and, over the long term, causing depression.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) has defined gaming addiction as “a pattern of persistent or recurrent gaming behaviour (‘digital gaming’ or ‘video-gaming’)”, defined by three criteria: the lack of control of playing video games, priority given to video games over other interests, and inability to stop playing video games even after being affected by negative consequences.” Gaming addiction can have highly detrimental effects on an addict’s life, causing them to give up previously valuable relationships in favour of the isolation which gaming entails, and potentially having serious financial consequences including the loss of jobs and the acquisition of huge debt to fund new games and/or in-game purchases.

 

[crusti]

its bloody obviously YES, Violence never existed before computer games at all.

 

[Poco_Loco]

OK well if all this is true why did my son think he could fly like Iron man (seriously we had to lock his window) and when he's outside churches he holars "Puny God"

 

[Manorgasmian]

OK well if all this is true why did my son think he could fly like Iron man (seriously we had to lock his window) and when he's outside churches he holars "Puny God"

Nothing wrong with being an aspirational smart arse with a sense of humour!

 

[Ingrid1965]

Banana dance ( for vieuwers older than 60!)

 

[Amaani]

Is it really possible to shield them from it though ?

Yes teach them right and wrong but "Snap Behaviour" often isn't as simple as that.

Yes you can for as long as possible and then you explain how to differentiate between reality and fiction. My brother were Mortal Kombat nuts but they didn’t go round pulling peoples spines out and claiming fatality.

it all starts at home

 

[Poco_Loco]

Yes you can for as long as possible and then you explain how to differentiate between reality and fiction. My brother were Mortal Kombat nuts but they didn’t go round pulling peoples spines out and claiming fatality.

it all starts at home

Nobody has suggested they can not distinguish between fake and reality ,

Don't you see ?

My Son for example knew nothing about prostitutes until he played GTA , so when he's older and curb crawling in his BMW is he more likely to pull out £50 and sling one across his hood ?

That's a scary thought eh ?

Or , maybe he will Tie 1 of his mates to a chair and proceed to remove their teeth with a pair of Plyers ?

I preferred him as Iron Man tbh.

 

[Bad_Influence]

Nobody has suggested they can not distinguish between fake and reality ,

Don't you see ?

My Son for example knew nothing about prostitutes until he played GTA , so when he's older and curb crawling in his BMW is he more likely to pull out £50 and sling one across his hood ?

That's a scary thought eh ?

Or , maybe he will Tie 1 of his mates to a chair and proceed to remove their teeth with a pair of Plyers ?

I preferred him as Iron Man tbh.

I think what everyone is saying is:

IT’S YOUR FAULT.

Lol