Why I do not respect Atheists

[Bad_Influence]

Religiousness has no link to that. Righteousness does.

Religion is by no means an all-curing belief system, it is more of a placebo for many

 

[leo_Invictus]

Religiousness has no link to that. Righteousness does.

Religion is by no means an all-curing belief system, it is more of a placebo for many

All religious societies execute traitors or previous ones at least did

Atheist ones reward them or tolerate them

 

[Bad_Influence]

All religious societies execute traitors or previous ones at least did

Atheist ones reward them or tolerate them

Stop now. You're talking nonsense. My atheism has nothing to do with my opinion on how traitors (or criminals of all kind) should be treated. You seem to be of the opinion that all atheists are liberal snowflakes... open your eye ffs.

 

[leo_Invictus]

Stop now. You're talking nonsense. My atheism has nothing to do with my opinion on how traitors (or criminals of all kind) should be treated. You seem to be of the opinion that all atheists are liberal snowflakes... open your eye ffs.

I didn't say you in particular i said as a general term and all majority atheist nations have no death penalty

stated earlier atheists range all over the political spectrum

 

[Bad_Influence]

I didn't say you in particular i said as a general term and all majority atheist nations have no death penalty

stated earlier atheists range all over the political spectrum

Ok it was just a massive generalisation on your part then.

 

[leo_Invictus]

Ok it was just a massive generalisation on your part then.

Nope cos the pattern is the same with all majority atheist countries

 

[Bad_Influence]

So ALL religious countries still have the death penalty?

 

[leo_Invictus]

Yes those with less than 10% atheist populations, majority did yes

 

[Bad_Influence]

So not ALL then? Another generalisation.

 

[leo_Invictus]

i don't see pattern recognition as generalisation

 

[Bad_Influence]

Assumptions, both right and wrong, can be read from patterns.

 

[OOPure_FilthOO]

That response?

It does not tackle my questions on the op

You only stated pretty much that god can not be proofed scientifically to exist or not exist which I agree with

I never put on the op proof by scientific method if god exists or not which I don't think it can either way

I asked these questions then expanded on why I think atheism is weak and intellectual cowardice.



These are the questions I asked

What do they want at this stage for society or civilization in general?

A society based purely on scientific and rationalist thought with a will purely to only deconstruct and criticise everything about religion and culture which stems from religiousness?

People need to understand A god or deity is purely a metaphor for spiritualization, the all-elusive because it Does not exist. religion and belief systems exist to either lead people onto a better life or to give people hope. I am an Athiest as I don't find any resolute in saying I belong to any particular cult.
religions and belief systems are wholly a projection of how people should live their life how to conduct themselves within their own mentality and socialisms.

the fact that people can actually be respectful and courteous, helpful, forgiving and generous without having a particular religion to let us say (blame) for how they conduct themselves should show that Athiest are above anyone that actually practices to any particular religion.

 

[OOPure_FilthOO]

All religious societies execute traitors or previous ones at least did

Atheist ones reward them or tolerate them

does the fact traitors were killed by people in the name of Religion go against the Religions God forgives all.

then does that make a statement that the fact (Athiests) reward, forgive and tolerate make us all closer to the projected image of a God that The religious prescribe to?

 

[leo_Invictus]

does the fact traitors were killed by people in the name of Religion go against the Religions God forgives all.

then does that make a statement that the fact (Athiests) reward, forgive and tolerate make us all closer to the projected image of a God that The religious prescribe to?

Depends on the religion but Christianity certainly is a tolerant religion now but wasn't when Western Civilization was in it's infancy or after Rome fell or during the Spanish Inquistion for example Certainly liberalism,marxism and the implosion of empire would of had a major impact on this and Egalitarianism and Uninversalism spreading from academia the soviet union and the French revolution.

After the enlightenment era when nation states formed and became more common, tribal loyalties and protection and loyalty of king or kingdom would of been interpreted differently I suppose as the nation state would of been secular than compared to previously when only loyalty to tribe,king or emperor or god

Do you have a certain event or behaviour of treason or treachery what you would view as treason or treachery to discuss specifically within an atheistic state or a religious one or an event or behaviour that wasn't tried for treason or treachery but should of been ?

 

[leo_Invictus]

People need to understand A god or deity is purely a metaphor for spiritualization, the all-elusive because it Does not exist. religion and belief systems exist to either lead people onto a better life or to give people hope. I am an Athiest as I don't find any resolute in saying I belong to any particular cult.
religions and belief systems are wholly a projection of how people should live their life how to conduct themselves within their own mentality and socialisms.

the fact that people can actually be respectful and courteous, helpful, forgiving and generous without having a particular religion to let us say (blame) for how they conduct themselves should show that Atheist are above anyone that actually practices to any particular religion.

If you are of European descent and live in a European country or part of the West you would still be a cultural Christian though to a large extent as many laws,social practices, customs and morality would of stemmed from that influence of Christianity even if you do not believe in a christian god or any other god

 

[leo_Invictus]

People need to understand A god or deity is purely a metaphor for spiritualization, the all-elusive because it Does not exist. religion and belief systems exist to either lead people onto a better life or to give people hope. I am an Athiest as I don't find any resolute in saying I belong to any particular cult.
religions and belief systems are wholly a projection of how people should live their life how to conduct themselves within their own mentality and socialisms.

the fact that people can actually be respectful and courteous, helpful, forgiving and generous without having a particular religion to let us say (blame) for how they conduct themselves should show that Atheist are above anyone that actually practices to any particular religion.

''I think it's more to exist to either lead people onto a better life or to give people hope'' I quote you

Religion is much more than that. It can be a bond , brotherhood, unifies a people against external threats as they have a common belief system which creates a unique spirituality for that set ethnic and tribal group also creates a culture within a people and a way of life which people are prepared to die for if needed (atheism does the opposite and atomizes and weakens those bonds) Ultimately it creates a sense of community around worship which in turn builds a strong and cohesive society.

Put it this way no advanced civilization let alone a strong culture has ever been created or stemmed from an atheistic people or tribe

 

[Poco_Loco]

Do people not deserve respect whatever their religious beliefs ?

I do not see why you wouldn't respect an atheist who was of sound character ?

I gave up trying to tell God believers that there really is no evidence at all to back what they believe along time ago,

For some people following a religion helps them in some way and it also gives them a sense of decency,

Live and let live,

Except Freddie Mercury fans , they can all fcuk off.

 

[Altair]

Religious belief's should not interfere with respect for someone.

I'm a staunch Athiest... with a capital A. That doesn't mean i'm against anyone who isn't.!

On the contrary. I have great respect for those that STILL believe in their chosen 'GOD' and follow their Chosen 'religion.'

Especially in this day and age, with all the Science that we know of and widespread and easy to find information about 'God' and 'Religion'.

There are folk STILL willing to blindly follow their 'GOD' and their 'religion'.!

LEO. I have a couple of questions for you.

Who is Your chosen GOD?.. what makes Your God a more plausible God than any other?

 

[Altair]

 

[leo_Invictus]

Religious belief's should not interfere with respect for someone.

I'm a staunch Athiest... with a capital A. That doesn't mean i'm against anyone who isn't.!

On the contrary. I have great respect for those that STILL believe in their chosen 'GOD' and follow their Chosen 'religion.'

Especially in this day and age, with all the Science that we know of and widespread and easy to find information about 'God' and 'Religion'.

There are folk STILL willing to blindly follow their 'GOD' and their 'religion'.!

LEO. I have a couple of questions for you.

Who is Your chosen GOD?.. what makes Your God a more plausible God than any other?

Odin and Hoor both Norse/Germanic gods i do not devoutly follow as I have no set religion (I wish I did have a set religion and was born into worshiping my tribal god). I believe in a creator though I was not born into a religious family probably like most in Western Europe and the Anglosphere.

Compare that too 100-150 years ago everyone was born into Christianity or paganism

Maybe would of found Christianity in my late 20's if the religion hadn't become so weak and pathetic

Up until 7 years ago I hadn't thought about religiousness or spirituality but after reading a lot of different philosophers across the political spectrum I fell into the Norse gods of war.

'Those that are willing blind to follow their 'GOD' ' are the ones that have a brotherhood they have a spirit, they fight, they protect and they inspire and aspire for something great something greater than themselves which Atheism can't offer and never has. It is a reason why Europe as a civilization survived and thrived it never would of without the spirituality of tribalism which lead to organised religion (and In Europe's case Christianity became the dominant one). If you believe in something you have to go all out for your beliefs and enforcing your will on others is a big part of social and cultural dynamics to begin with. (I am still currently looking for that fanaticism and tribalism in this globalist world)

'What makes your God a more plausible God than any other' ?

In a philosophical sense The god of your tribe your land and your environment will ultimately be the only plausible god as it resonates with you and your people only. It is your banner, extension of culture and close bond of community