Who Looks After The Kids?

[Omega]

I completely agree with them sending their child to nursery whilst they are off work in a global pandemic because having children who are used to being at school but have been unable to attend, I see how important it is for children’s mental well being to have routine, a social life and freedom. I don’t blame them at all for sending their small one to nursery

You seem to forget that before this pandemic, there has been another pandemic and 2 world wars over the past century that lasted years, yet kids grew up into decent humans regardless with no mental health issues.

Ask yourself why?

That is, if you're actually able to put yourself into such a position .

 

[hell2bwith76]

6) In an ideal world people tend to give birth to the amount of kids they can afford to raise (see point 1) - 2 nowadays (if you're not in a stable relationship and both working) is already 1 too many, if you want to give your offspring a chance of a decent life - on the other hand if you don't care about their future and believe that living on handouts is fine for the rest of their lives, feel free to breed like rabbits and continue the cycle.

Lets clarify what you are suggesting in this statement ...two parents working isn`t enough to have one child educated ?. If you watch at the school gates you may just spot the "od" ones out who are the grandparents who look after their children`s kids so that their parents can work whilst the children get educated .

Answers on a stamped ,self addressed letter please .

 

[Omega]

Lets clarify what you are suggesting in this statement ...two parents working isn`t enough to have one child educated ?. If you watch at the school gates you may just spot the "od" ones out who are the grandparents who look after their children`s kids so that their parents can work whilst the children get educated .

Answers on a stamped ,self addressed letter please .

I think I made everything very clear in my post.

I actually took this thread back a step or 2 to before falling pregnant - In the last sentence I actually took it back to infancy.

The thread title was the following:

Traditional Versus Modern "Relationships" - Which is better?​

Edited.

Sorry, that was the poll title - not the thread title as I previously typed..
I actually replied to the question:

Traditional Versus Modern "Relationships" - Which is better​

(nothing to do with your poll question, though) - I took it to a different place, before it even got to the point in which one had to answer your poll question

 

[hell2bwith76]

I think I made everything very clear in my post.

I actually took this thread back a step or 2 to before falling pregnant - In the last sentence I actually took it back to infancy.

The thread title was the following:

Traditional Versus Modern "Relationships" - Which is better?​

Confusion reigns

 

[hell2bwith76]

So these days do parents expect the state to pay them to bring a child up or do they palm their kids off at childcare providers do they can work? I’m not really seeing your view clearly just an ignorant comment with any excuse to slate parents. I much prefer Yaris older generation input if I’m honest

My neighbours ,a youngish (late 30`s) couple have a young child which was 1 year old at Xmas. The child has been taken to a nursery school for 3 days a week "free" so they tell us . The last 2 days of week their parents ,who live just around the corner ,have them for the remaining 2 weekdays.When the child is at the nursery she is brought home at about 6:30pm every day . I consider that a long day for a 1 year old to be at pre-school place.
They are not short of money as the man is an only child and his parents gave him a 3 bed house in a smart area when their parents died .
I still think that a lot of parents are spoiled today by the Nanny State. which isn`t really helping them to live an "independant" life.

 

[Omega]

My neighbours ,a youngish (late 30`s) couple have a young child which was 1 year old at Xmas. The child has been taken to a nursery school for 3 days a week "free" so they tell us . The last 2 days of week their parents ,who live just around the corner ,have them for the remaining 2 weekdays.When the child is at the nursery she is brought home at about 6:30pm every day . I consider that a long day for a 1 year old to be at pre-school place.
They are not short of money as the man is an only child and his parents gave him a 3 bed house in a smart area when their parents died .
I still think that a lot of parents are spoiled today by the Nanny State. which isn`t really helping them to live an "independant" life.

Very long day indeed - I don't agree with leaving a 1 yr old out at a nursery all day long.
There is nothing said child is going to miss at that age, by not going to nursery.

Those are cocoon yrs - There shouldn't be any stress.


Pre- schools from 3 yrs upwards are ok (although I'd actually bring it back to age 5) .

My opinion.

 

[Omega]

Confusion reigns

I edited my other post - maybe now you understand.

 

[Omega]

If I were to answer your poll - this would be my answer:

One partner stays home, brings up the children, the other works.​

I wouldn't want a child of mine to be brought up by anyone else - If I can't bring it up myself (or my partner), I don't see the point in having one in the first place.

I've known quite a few who gave birth to their kids and within 3 months ( if I recall correctly) the kids were at nursery.

When do these women bond with their kids?

First it's work, then it's the gym, then it's out partying.
They never have time for the kids (or the relationship with their partner)
They then wonder why their relationships fail ...

Women nowadays want it all - they spread themselves thin in order to have it all, but sadly it doesn't work like that.
You can't have everything and be good at it all - you've got to make choices.

This said by a woman who believes in equality, feminism, but also in common sense.

 

[hell2bwith76]

How can you be confused?

I made 8 very simple points in reference to the thread title : Traditional versus modern relationships.

I can't see where you can be confused.

The replies are bouncing about all over your thread . I ended up with a butt about how i was banned from my last site ..hahaa.. i think it`s not part of this thread eh >?

 

[Omega]

The replies are bouncing about all over your thread . I ended up with a butt about how i was banned from my last site ..hahaa.. i think it`s not part of this thread eh >?

I noticed something about being banned but didn't read it all ... sort of skimmed over it.

 

[CrazyCatLady]

I stand corrected I googled it, it’s now 3 years of age that a mother has to look for work if they’re claiming certain benefits.
I think it’s unfair to make working parents feel guilty, when it’s a requirement

It was 7 years old when my son was little, but I know they changed it a few years after he passed the threshold.

 

[Miss_Understanding]

It was 7 years old when my son was little, but I know they changed it a few years after he passed the threshold.

Uhuh it dropped dramatically it seems

 

[CrazyCatLady]

If you can afford for one parent to stay at home, great, but that's not the reality today and unless it's a little baby, there's no harm in a small child going to day care regularly. In fact, I think it should be mandatory that all children are attend some form of registered, regulated play scheme from the age of 2. If they're of a socialisation stage, it's healthy for them to spend time away from their main care giver- it promotes self-efficacy in social settings and teaches them social skills outside of the family setting.

I had to work when my son was little- I had bills to pay, whether I was living with my mother or in our own place. But living with my mother, I worked at night in a private club that was open till 4am. I'd leave after bathing him and putting him to bed, and get back as the sun was rising and a couple of hours until he woke up. I'd then have until my mother was leaving for work to sleep. Those days, I often lived on 2-3 hours kip a night/morning, and make up the loss on my nights off.
When he was older and at nursery, then school; I worked days (offices, etc) and he went to after school clubs a few times a week, when I worked late. There were also breakfast clubs at the school. Handy when I began uni and had to get across town for a 9am lecture or exam.

And he's definitely not screwed up, as the result of a working mother! He's grown up with a strong work ethic and the knowledge that nothing comes for free!

 

[hell2bwith76]

If you can afford for one parent to stay at home, great, but that's not the reality today and unless it's a little baby, there's no harm in a small child going to day care regularly. In fact, I think it should be mandatory that all children are attend some form of registered, regulated play scheme from the age of 2. If they're of a socialisation stage, it's healthy for them to spend time away from their main care giver- it promotes self-efficacy in social settings and teaches them social skills outside of the family setting.

I had to work when my son was little- I had bills to pay, whether I was living with my mother or in our own place. But living with my mother, I worked at night in a private club that was open till 4am. I'd leave after bathing him and putting him to bed, and get back as the sun was rising and a couple of hours until he woke up. I'd then have until my mother was leaving for work to sleep. Those days, I often lived on 2-3 hours kip a night/morning, and make up the loss on my nights off.
When he was older and at nursery, then school; I worked days (offices, etc) and he went to after school clubs a few times a week, when I worked late. There were also breakfast clubs at the school. Handy when I began uni and had to get across town for a 9am lecture or exam.

And he's definitely not screwed up, as the result of a working mother! He's grown up with a strong work ethic and the knowledge that nothing comes for free!

Nursery comes for free now ! from age 1 year and it`s free for 3 days. My neighbour takes the 18 month old to nursery at 8am and fetches her home at about 6pm. The 2 days the nursery isn`t free his Parents have the child . Fine ,you might think ,but they both work from home now ! don`t we encourage any parental teaching now ?. Social skills to do what ? get pissed every weekend and make lots of noise in the streets ?. They don`t need lessons in that from what i see and hear .

 

[Whiskers]

Nursery comes for free now ! from age 1 year and it`s free for 3 days. My neighbour takes the 18 month old to nursery at 8am and fetches her home at about 6pm. The 2 days the nursery isn`t free his Parents have the child . Fine ,you might think ,but they both work from home now ! don`t we encourage any parental teaching now ?. Social skills to do what ? get pissed every weekend and make lots of noise in the streets ?. They don`t need lessons in that from what i see and hear .

You're basically a curtain twitcher get a grip and whats it got to do with you what others do.

 

[hell2bwith76]

You're basically a curtain twitcher get a grip and whats it got to do with you what others do.

What a silly question. Some people ,you one ? use the system to gain more money than they should at the expense of those who genuinely neeed help.You stupid person.

 

[Whiskers]

What a silly question. Some people ,you one ? use the system to gain more money than they should at the expense of those who genuinely neeed help.You stupid person.

Do shut up you pathetic simpleton

 

[hell2bwith76]

Do shut up you pathetic simpleton

Anything for you dahling