Can anyone answer this?

[Bad_Influence]

A litttle ditty to break the frictions .
I have a daughter who goes to her GP when she is ill with anything but all she wants is a diagnosis ,not treatment ! GP prescribes pills or medication for the condition but daughter doesn`t get it ! She looks the condition up online and after finding a herbal remedy goes to the local Herbal shop and buys something from them .
The strange thing is that most of the time a bottle of wine and a pkt of ciggies works wonders !. Health warnings about both ciggies and alcohol have now been well tested and broadcast yet do any smokers/drinkers take any notice or storm the shops which sell fags or alcohol ? noooooo.
So ,what is the difference between cigarettes or alcohol which is proven (PROVEN) to kill and Vaccines which are still being tested even though they are designed to save life?.

Just thinking .

The govt aren’t actively coercing/bribing kids to have cigarettes and alcohol, pretending they are harmless. Next.

 

[Bad_Influence]

SAGE member has said future Covid measures should only apply to most vulnerable

17 months too late. From the start we should of found ways of living with Covid that did not wreck society.
Instead those with alternative strategies were branded conspiracy theorists and silenced.

 

[Bad_Influence]

Why not just use real doctors, nurses & patients?

 

[Bad_Influence]

From the Daily Express:

EU in Covid panic as bloc investigates side-effects to Pfizer and Moderna jabs​

THE EU's vaccine rollout has been thrown into question as the bloc has announced an investigation into the Pfizer and Moderna jabs.​

Announced on Wednesday, the bloc's medical regulator will not investigate both jabs amid reports of side-effects of both shots. According to the European Medicines Agency (EMA), Erythema multiforme, a form of allergic skin reaction; glomerulonephritis or kidney inflammation; and nephrotic syndrome, a renal disorder characterised by heavy urinary protein losses were all reported in association with the jabs. The bloc, however, has refused to reveal the latest number of people who have suffered these side effects in its most recent report.

Neither Moderna nor Pfizer have released a statement in relation to the investigation.

Commenting on the Comirnaty vaccine produced by BioNTech and Pfizer vaccine, the EMA confirmed those who suffered from side-effects of the vaccine may have had previous medical issues.

It's latest COVID-19 vaccine safety update said: "These reports describe suspected side effects in individuals, i.e. medical events observed following the use of a vaccine.

"The fact that someone has had a medical issue or died after vaccination does not necessarily mean that this was caused by the vaccine.
"This may have been caused, for example, by health problems not related to the vaccination."

As of July 29, the EU reported 244,807 cases of suspected side-effects with the vaccine.

Of that number, 4,198 reported a fatal outcome of approximately 330 million doses.

Commenting on the Spikevax vaccine, produced by Moderna, there were 48,788 cases of suspected side effects of the vaccine.
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And so it begins.
So potentially 4,198 death linked to the vaccines.
Not just the odd one then?

 

[Bad_Influence]

Glad to see the US military have some sense.

 

[Bad_Influence]

This just gets worse:

From the British Medical Journal. (Not a conspiracy theorist site)

Covid-19: US regulator raises “significant concerns” over safety of rapid lateral flow tests​

The US Food and Drug Agency (FDA) has raised concerns about the safety and the marketing of rapid lateral flow covid-19 tests, which are the cornerstone of the UK’s mass testing programme.

On 10 June,1 the agency warned the public to stop using the Innova SARS-CoV-2 antigen rapid qualitative test for detecting infection and suggested the tests should be destroyed and binned or returned to the manufacturer.

The FDA published a class 1 recall of the test after an investigation carried out between March and April uncovered “significant concerns that the performance of the test has not been adequately established, presenting a risk to health.” Class 1 is the most serious kind of recall and indicates that use of the tests may cause serious injury or death.
In addition, the FDA said that “labelling distributed with certain configurations of the test includes performance claims that did not accurately reflect the performance estimates observed during clinical studies,” and that the test “has not been authorised, cleared, or approved by the FDA for commercial distribution or use in the US, as required by law.”

In a warning letter to the manufacturer,2 the agency wrote, “The clinical performance estimates reported in the labelling of the 25T configuration and 7T configuration devices are false or misleading as they do not accurately reflect the performance estimates observed during the clinical studies of your devices.” The FDA also noted that the clinical study data Innova submitted in its emergency use authorisation (EUA) request for the test was “identical to data previously provided by other manufacturers” in separate requests. “The data reliability and accuracy problems noted herein raise significant concerns that the performance of the SARS-CoV-2 antigen rapid qualitative test has not been adequately established, and that the products distributed by Innova without FDA approval, clearance, or authorisation could present a serious risk to the public health.”

In a statement, Innova said it has “worked diligently and proactively to tackle the FDA findings,” adding that “none of the inspectional observations concern the performance of the test.” The company said, “We have voluntarily recalled the products as a result of labelling that was not consistent with FDA regulatory requirements. We are confident that we are on the pathway to fully comply with FDA requirements.” Innova added, “Since Innova rapid antigen tests have not received EUA in the US, Innova is not shipping these products for commercial use. We intend to seek FDA authorisation to commercialise our rapid antigen test in the US.”

The FDA’s notice came just days after the Royal Statistical Society (RSS) called for new standards for diagnostic tests in the UK3 in response to regulatory gaps identified during the covid-19 pandemic.

Following the FDA’s warning, Jon Deeks, professor of biostatistics at University of Birmingham, who co-chaired the RSS’s working group on diagnostic tests, said, “There have been many problems with transparency in the evidence to support the government’s policies for use of this lateral flow test, which negatively impacts on uptake. Given the more serious concerns identified by the FDA, it is essential that full explanations and data are provided to explain decisions made about its continued use, if that is the decision made.”

The Department of Health and Social Care said it had confidence in lateral flow tests. “The Innova test has already gone through the UK’s rigorous Porton Down assessment process, and we have a robust quality assurance process in place,” said a spokesperson.

Graeme Tunbridge, Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) director of devices, said, “The MHRA are reviewing all available information and are working closely with NHS Test and Trace to ensure that a full risk assessment is undertaken, as is our normal process, to understand any implications for products being used in the UK. Patient safety is our priority and we will publish safety information as and when necessary.”

 

[SamBally]

More spew from American sources and only American sources.

As the UK is a world leader in medical research when will these anti-vaxx Covid conspiracy theorists post evidence, any evidence, from this elite UK scientific community.

 

[Bad_Influence]

More spew from American sources and only American sources.

As the UK is a world leader in medical research when will these anti-vaxx Covid conspiracy theorists post evidence, any evidence, from this elite UK scientific community.

You’re falling apart Sam. The BMJ isn’t an American source I believe.

 

[MrFishy]

God that took me a while to read thru.........

Lets go thru bad influences questions.

How do you know when your in a pandemic? Its not an easy question to answer. Millions of people dying or sick most would say. In Feb last year people weren't......... not even in March. And by June places were opening once again and the government was running eat and help out.

It was hard to spot seasonal flu from covid over the winter.

The vaccine rollout's been a bit of a frailer too in the UK. The government propaganda machine is busy promoting it and I'm not sure if the vaccines work or covid just run it course.

Any good accountant will tell you facts and figurers can be manipulated into the answer you want. No mater how I think about this.........150k deaths out of a population of 70 million people isn't a pandemic. You can argue the government measures like lockdowns and vaccines worked saving life's......... but no ones sure.

My gut feeling is governments over reacted to covid 19. They all say pandemic's arrive once every 100 years and we were due one. Most of the world was screaming "pandemic".

But what if covid 19's isn't it?

There no way any country can afford another pandemic for years to come. The worrying feeling is if something new comes along...........we dont have the money or resources to deal with it.

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[SamBally]

I repeat, as the UK is a world leader in medical research, the best of the best, the SAS of research, why haven't Professor Troll and his sidekick, masters educated social scientist and psychologist, posted ANY research by UK scientists or scientists from any other advanced nation.


It's all bollocks originating from the USA and nowhere else on the planet.

 

[SamBally]

God that took me a while to read thru.........

Lets go thru bad influences questions.

How do you know when your in a pandemic? Its not an easy question to answer. Millions of people dying or sick most would say. In Feb last year people weren't......... not even in March. And by June places were opening once again and the government was running eat and help out.

It was hard to spot seasonal flu from covid over the winter.

The vaccine rollout's been a bit of a frailer too in the UK. The government propaganda machine is busy promoting it and I'm not sure if the vaccines work or covid just run it course.

Any good accountant will tell you facts and figurers can be manipulated into the answer you want. No mater how I think about this.........150k deaths out of a population of 70 million people isn't a pandemic. You can argue the government measures like lockdowns and vaccines worked saving life's......... but no ones sure.

My gut feeling is governments over reacted to covid 19. They all say pandemic's arrive once every 100 years and we were due one. Most of the world was screaming "pandemic".

But what if covid 19's isn't it?

There no way any country can afford another pandemic for years to come. The worrying feeling is if something new comes along...........we dont have the money or resources to deal with it.

​

Thanks, Doctor DOA, I'll get back to you later.

 

[Bad_Influence]

I repeat, as the UK is a world leader in medical research, the best of the best, the SAS of research, why haven't Professor Troll and his sidekick, masters educated social scientist and psychologist, posted ANY research by UK scientists or scientists from any other advanced nation.


It's all bollocks originating from the USA and nowhere else on the planet.

You actually believe that don’t you? Wow.

 

[SamBally]

You actually believe that don’t you? Wow.

I believe you are a lonely old man who wants his threads visible all the time, where he will type any old bollocks to get a reaction and so he can reply with more bollocks just so he remains the centre of attention and as he has been doing for years on both this site and the old one.

 

[Bad_Influence]

I believe you are a lonely old man who wants his threads visible all the time, where he will type any old bollocks to get a reaction and so he can reply with more bollocks just so he remains the centre of attention and as he has been doing for years on both this site and the old one.

You’re welcome. When you are in touch with common sense and reasoning please let us know.

 

[Bad_Influence]

I believe you are a lonely old man who wants his threads visible all the time, where he will type any old bollocks to get a reaction and so he can reply with more bollocks just so he remains the centre of attention and as he has been doing for years on both this site and the old one.

Or alternatively, and preferably, present some evidence to back up what you type, just once. Instead of shouting “conspiracy theory” at everything in the hope of not being proven wrong, again.

 

[hell2bwith76]

God that took me a while to read thru.........

Lets go thru bad influences questions.

How do you know when your in a pandemic? Its not an easy question to answer. Millions of people dying or sick most would say. In Feb last year people weren't......... not even in March. And by June places were opening once again and the government was running eat and help out.

It was hard to spot seasonal flu from covid over the winter.

The vaccine rollout's been a bit of a frailer too in the UK. The government propaganda machine is busy promoting it and I'm not sure if the vaccines work or covid just run it course.

Any good accountant will tell you facts and figurers can be manipulated into the answer you want. No mater how I think about this.........150k deaths out of a population of 70 million people isn't a pandemic. You can argue the government measures like lockdowns and vaccines worked saving life's......... but no ones sure.

My gut feeling is governments over reacted to covid 19. They all say pandemic's arrive once every 100 years and we were due one. Most of the world was screaming "pandemic".

But what if covid 19's isn't it?

There no way any country can afford another pandemic for years to come. The worrying feeling is if something new comes along...........we dont have the money or resources to deal with it.

​

Most countries in the planet did the same thing ! were they all wrong about this being a "Pandemic"?

 

[Bad_Influence]

Most countries in the planet did the same thing ! were they all wrong about this being a "Pandemic"?

Just because everyone did the same thing does not mean it was correct. Ask Iceland.

 

[hell2bwith76]

True story this and very up to date. I had a medical review about 2 weeks ago at my local Surgery.It`s done every 6 months or year i think.
Running through all the pills i take for various conditions recent tests seem to be fine . Having had a bad cough for ages now ,over a Year which i attributed to a Nasal condition which i have i just mentioned it to the Review nurse. She said i need to see what the GP thought to this and made a telephone consultation. I had that today (Wednesday) and the Dr asked me a few questions and then said that a pill which i have for Blood Pressure was known to cause a cough ! Note that i`ve been taking this pill for about 2 years at least and it`s never been mentioned to me that it might have nasty side affects !. I presume that the pill had been tested by "experts" same as the Covid jab has.
Now then ,Mr B . would you like to tell me why there is no big uproar about a little pill for Blood Pressure but riots for a life saving jab such as Covid Vaccine ?
Btw ,my GP has now switched me to another pill which is for Blood Pressure but is not supposed to give side affects of a cough. Failing that he will look further into it .

 

[hell2bwith76]

Just because everyone did the same thing does not mean it was correct. Ask Iceland.

We shop at Tesco not Iceland

 

[Bad_Influence]

True story this and very up to date. I had a medical review about 2 weeks ago at my local Surgery.It`s done every 6 months or year i think.
Running through all the pills i take for various conditions recent tests seem to be fine . Having had a bad cough for ages now ,over a Year which i attributed to a Nasal condition which i have i just mentioned it to the Review nurse. She said i need to see what the GP thought to this and made a telephone consultation. I had that today (Wednesday) and the Dr asked me a few questions and then said that a pill which i have for Blood Pressure was known to cause a cough ! Note that i`ve been taking this pill for about 2 years at least and it`s never been mentioned to me that it might have nasty side affects !. I presume that the pill had been tested by "experts" same as the Covid jab has.
Now then ,Mr B . would you like to tell me why there is no big uproar about a little pill for Blood Pressure but riots for a life saving jab such as Covid Vaccine ?
Btw ,my GP has now switched me to another pill which is for Blood Pressure but is not supposed to give side affects of a cough. Failing that he will look further into it .

I obvious can’t say but I’d assume the pill was tested thoroughly and is not a whole new technology with only emergency approval.