Why I don't trust the Bible.

[Smew]

Oh. Okay.
Show me. Show me how it differs in this set of scriptures.

Scriptures?
Paul wrote LETTERS to various congregations.
G-Mark is a description of the ONE YEAR that Jesus spent in trying to build up a movement against Temple and Leader corruption and greed, which was nothing like Paul's religion which was based upon superstitious waffle. The last verses of Mark were tacked on the the whole, Jesus was estranged from his family (as shown so clearly) how actions in the Temple show exactly what he intended.

Paul? Paul built Christianity.

 

[Smew]

Again. Show me. Show me the writings of Jesus. Show me what Jesus wrote down, Sr Experte.

Show me where I have claimed that Jesus could write.
Sr Experte? That's nasty.

 

[Smew]

As mentioned, Peter - the apostle of Jesus, who you are criticising because PETER said it and not Jesus - stated Paul's letters as godly wisdom. So you're arguing against the "pattern of healthful teaching".

We know that Cephas faced up to Paul.... I can imagine why.
Whatever do you call Cephas Peter? Jesus never did!

Again. If you're going to claim what it is, show it. Look, here's an example. Jesus says that "“Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name. Then, too, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. Many false prophets will arise and mislead many". That came from this scripture. Matthew 24:9-11.
So, please show where this G-Mark says what you're claiming.

Whatever did you show me a claim from Matthew? For what purpose?
Now, if you want m to show you that G-Mark described an 11-12 month period in the life of Jesus, why don't you just read G-Mark?

This part, you are correct on. We know when it was added in. Therefore, we know it should be removed. Here's an article showing how we know when it was added in.

......which helps to show what an absolute construct the resurrection was.

No mate. Just because his family didn't accept him as the Messiah, other than his mother and stepfather, doesn't mean he was estranged from them. There are many scriptures showing that his brothers and sisters visited him.

Show me! The only visit I remember was when Jesus did not receive them but told his true friends 'You are my Mother and brothers!'

He was certainly a big part.

Paul was a big part in the fabrication of Christianity.

 

[Smew]

So you're arguing against the "pattern of healthful teaching".

'The pattern of healthful teaching'? What exactly is that? My whole point about Christianity is that it is a fabrication.

So, please show where this G-Mark says what you're claiming.

A one-year (or 11-12 month) series of events: As you read through the gospel of Mark you will realise that there is only one Passover event that takes place, the week in which Jesus goes sightseeing in the Temple (On the Palm Sunday afternoon) 11:11, Trashes Anna's bazaar and pickets the Temple Courts (Monday) 11:15-16, Returns to do the same all again and ends up in a big debate with Temple Leaders and priests (Tuesday) 11:27-33......... this one week shows how the other gospels extended the mission over 3 years in some attempt to make it all bigger,longer than it really had been.

Please support your claim. Do you have any, or are you just a big mouth? Flapping your gums, blablabla, with no evidence. A bottle in the wind?

The above shows how you wander from this debate to insult me in several ways. This shows how some Christians have descended, imo.

No mate. Just because his family didn't accept him as the Messiah, other than his mother and stepfather, doesn't mean he was estranged from them. There are many scriptures showing that his brothers and sisters visited him.

The Mother and brothers of Jesus were not close to him at all:-
Mark {3:31} There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him. {3:32} And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee. {3:33} And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? {3:34} And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

And on Nazareth....remember thev things that his family said about him?

You see? Once on my computer I can indeed access quotations to show you, but you need to understand that

 

[ArthurSleep]

Moderators on here are too harsh

 

[Altair]

I thought you are banned. If you're banned, how are you still on here talking?

Banned from the Chat rooms NOT the forum.

 

[Altair]

Matthew 16:18 <-- a verse where Jesus calls Peter, "Peter".

As mentioned, you don't know anything. Your complaints about poor little old troll you being picked on by all the horrible Christians is the picture you want to paint. All you do is lie and accuse, you little Satan.

Because you lied, I do not intend to answer anything else from you. You go on the list of others who can be ignored.

I don't think he Lied. Lets not no one fall out over this.

It's debate.. Each and every one of you has good and bad points. No need for animosity.

 

[Altair]

'The pattern of healthful teaching'? What exactly is that? My whole point about Christianity is that it is a fabrication.

A one-year (or 11-12 month) series of events: As you read through the gospel of Mark you will realise that there is only one Passover event that takes place, the week in which Jesus goes sightseeing in the Temple (On the Palm Sunday afternoon) 11:11, Trashes Anna's bazaar and pickets the Temple Courts (Monday) 11:15-16, Returns to do the same all again and ends up in a big debate with Temple Leaders and priests (Tuesday) 11:27-33......... this one week shows how the other gospels extended the mission over 3 years in some attempt to make it all bigger,longer than it really had been.

The above shows how you wander from this debate to insult me in several ways. This shows how some Christians have descended, imo.

The Mother and brothers of Jesus were not close to him at all:-
Mark {3:31} There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him. {3:32} And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee. {3:33} And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? {3:34} And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

And on Nazareth....remember thev things that his family said about him?

You see? Once on my computer I can indeed access quotations to show you, but you need to understand that

Once on a Computer?

Hmm ok.

So all what you have said is from the NET and not from your own mind and reading of the scriptures?

That much I understand... NOW..!

A lot of what I say comes from my heart and my mind. I don't need a computer to do that.

 

[Altair]

No, he actually lied. He knew it.

Fair enough.

 

[Altair]

About the Bible....For ME personally falls into HOW MANY GODS there are and How many Religions there are.

The point I'm trying to make is....Every person of Faith in their Religion is an Athiest about EVERY OTHER Religion.

This is a Correct statement from me.

Challenge me on this? Which is the right one and why?

 

[Smew]

Matthew 16:18 <-- a verse where Jesus calls Peter, "Peter".

Unfortunately a man wrote that. And certainly not the disciple Matthew.

As mentioned, you don't know anything. Your complaints about poor little old troll you being picked on by all the horrible Christians is the picture you want to paint. All you do is lie and accuse, you little Satan.

No.....not by all Christians, just a few with nasty manners.

Because you lied, I do not intend to answer anything else from you. You go on the list of others who can be ignored.

Thank goodness for that.

 

[Altair]

I actually like your thoughts on this. It is very important. You're in a good place in that you're not technically discriminating on any. So you're in a good place to start searching from.

So I won't challenge you on this. But I will say this though. If I - claiming to be a <place religion here> - have a book that I claim I follow as my instruction, but I don't follow what is in that book, that will define me as not actually being a <place religion here> if that book is so defined by that religion.

Based on that, one of the easiest ways to determine true from false is see who follows what is written in them, as opposed to those who don't, and that will eliminate a good 90% of religions as false.

What you do with each religion from there though, they're different exercises.

I'm not Searching for Anything.

You can't Challenge me or you wont?

Either way...Disappointing.!

 

[Smew]

Once on a Computer?

Hmm ok.

So all what you have said is from the NET and not from your own mind and reading of the scriptures?

That much I understand... NOW..!

A lot of what I say comes from my heart and my mind. I don't need a computer to do that.

Usually I write from my own mind, but SofG criticised me for not quoting everything, which I personally cannot do on my mobile.

And so I started up the old computer, just for him.

 

[Kev45]

Everyone else is either a "troll", "satan", or a "demon" according to this plum.

As soon as they demonstrate they know (understand) more about Holy Scripture than he does.

I thought Jehovah Witnesses job was to actively preach "the truth" about the impending 'Armageddon' they predict (over and over again)?

Because this one couldn't sell a lifebuoy to a drowning man.

And who is still trying to deceive people that The New World translation of the Holy Scriptures and the Bible are one and the same thing.

In 1963, theologian Anthony A. Hoekema wrote, "Their New World Translation of the Bible is by no means an objective rendering of the sacred text into modern English, but is a biased translation in which many of the peculiar teachings of the Watchtower Society are smuggled into the text of the Bible itself."​

Fair enough.

Stop grovelling and grow a backbone.

 

[Altair]

Why would I challenge you when I agree with you?

Fair enough and noted...

 

[Altair]

Everyone else is either a "troll", "satan", or a "demon" according to this plum.

As soon as they demonstrate they know (understand) more about Holy Scripture than he does.

I thought Jehovah Witnesses job was to actively preach "the truth" about the impending 'Armageddon' they predict (over and over again)?

Because this one couldn't sell a lifebuoy to a drowning man.

And who is still trying to deceive people that The New World translation of the Holy Scriptures and the Bible are one and the same thing.

In 1963, theologian Anthony A. Hoekema wrote, "Their New World Translation of the Bible is by no means an objective rendering of the sacred text into modern English, but is a biased translation in which many of the peculiar teachings of the Watchtower Society are smuggled into the text of the Bible itself."​

Stop grovelling and grow a backbone.

I grovel to NO one. It's Sunday. I don't go for the kill on a Sunday. You should know this.

 

[Altair]

Usually I write from my own mind, but SofG criticised me for not quoting everything, which I personally cannot do on my mobile.

And so I started up the old computer, just for him.

WOW...What a sad life you must lead...

No further comment

 

[Altair]

Ah. I see Kev is still there whining. He tells me not to talk to him because he's "apostate", and yet he expects me to talk to him. LOL What a miserable existence. Desperate for attention from those who reject him.

WTF?....You and KEV are a thing?....Or were? Jesus....!

 

[Kev45]

I thought that "Kev" was on iggy alongside the grovelling "Altair" who was also on iggy a few days ago.

Who is back in favour with you today simply because he is kissing your hypocritical arse.

Remind people that you do not follow Holy Scripture, you are a Jehovah Witness you instead follow the crap translation described as the New World Translation.

 

[Altair]

I thought that "Kev" was on iggy alongside the grovelling "Altair" who was also on iggy a few days ago.

Who is back in favour with you today simply because he is kissing your hypocritical arse.

Remind people that you do not follow Holy Scripture, you are a Jehovah Witness you instead follow the crap translation described as the New World Translation.

I kiss no one's arse.

The rest of your rant means nothing to me.