Stade de France regularly sells out and rarely do you read about issues - to be honest I can't remember ever reading about issues
If you're saying issues are quite common then the burden of proof lies with you
Why is it always Liverpool?
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If you're saying issues are quite common then the burden of proof lies with you
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Surely you have evidence, Liam, to support your statement it has NEVER happened with any other fans.
So post it.
Clearly, you are ignorant about French police policing football matches in France.
Because of course, the UK press often prints stories about police behavior abroad when foreign teams play each other...
Or that "tear gas" in France is the "norm".
Why capitalise the word 'NEVER'? When it's not been used
You're blaming the French police?
Did you blame Athens police in 2007?
Belgian police in 1985?
No other football club has ever put so much blame onto the police
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You made the initial allegation, Liam.
Based on a single 10-second clip from Twitter.
You silly kid.
You have no evidence at all to support your cowardly allegation.
You also dismiss UK police, in an official statement, stating Liverpool fans' behaviour in France was "exemplary in the circumstances".
You clearly also live in a hole in the ground to also state "no other football club.."
It has been WIDELY reported this robust hands-on approach with ENGLISH fans is still common abroad.
Based on a bad reputation regarding football hooliganism in the 70s and 80s.
Including with Tottenham more recently.
I've noticed you dismiss the Parisian police and the French interior minister who said
'Thousands of British "supporters", without tickets or with counterfeit tickets, forced entry and sometimes assaulted the stewards.
'Thank you to the very many police forces mobilized this evening in this difficult context.'
I've never seen a set of football fans blame the police as much as Liverpool fans
Back to my original question
Why always Liverpool fans?
'Thousands of British "supporters", without tickets or with counterfeit tickets, forced entry and sometimes assaulted the stewards.
'Thank you to the very many police forces mobilized this evening in this difficult context.'
I've never seen a set of football fans blame the police as much as Liverpool fans
Back to my original question
Why always Liverpool fans?
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Where is your evidence it is always Liverpool fans?
It doesn't matter what you "have seen", Liam. What you have seen is totally irrelevant.
Only evidence matters.
Only facts matter.
So, prove your ghoulish inappropriate allegation with evidence that isn't a 10-second Twitter clip.
I've noticed he dismisses the Parisian police and the French interior minister who said
'Thousands of British "supporters", without tickets or with counterfeit tickets, forced entry and sometimes assaulted the stewards.
'Thank you to the very many police forces mobilized this evening in this difficult context.'
I guess they could all be wrong and the Liverpool supporters could be 100% innocent again, but it's a reasonable question to ask
'Thousands of British "supporters", without tickets or with counterfeit tickets, forced entry and sometimes assaulted the stewards.
'Thank you to the very many police forces mobilized this evening in this difficult context.'
I guess they could all be wrong and the Liverpool supporters could be 100% innocent again, but it's a reasonable question to ask
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The British police have stated fans' behavior was "exemplary" in the circumstances.
What French criminal gangs are responsible for selling counterfeit tickets to ticketless fans in pubs and bars prior to the match.
This also happens with every other club prior to big matches.
Blackmarket/touts.
Which led to bottlenecks, 2 hours before the match, because the French police shephered Liverpool fans into areas that were too small to contain them.
Then teargassed them to disperse them once the tickets were claimed to be counterfeit.
So... Now you are starting to see what REALLY happened.
So it wasn't Liverpool fans' fault at all.
Was it, Liam?
It's best to admit it mate
Who can forget uefa in 2007 who said, in regards to Liverpool fans
William Gaillard said: "The incidents involving Liverpool fans have been well known to us before the trouble at the Champions League final which involved Liverpool fans last week. "That was just the latest example. What other set of fans steal tickets from their fellow supporters or out of the hands of children? {2} "We know what happened in Athens, and Liverpool fans were the cause of most of the trouble there. "There have been 25 incidents involving Liverpool fans away from home since 2003 and these are in the report - most teams' supporters do not cause any trouble at all."
It's a conversation that needs to be had
Who can forget uefa in 2007 who said, in regards to Liverpool fans
William Gaillard said: "The incidents involving Liverpool fans have been well known to us before the trouble at the Champions League final which involved Liverpool fans last week. "That was just the latest example. What other set of fans steal tickets from their fellow supporters or out of the hands of children? {2} "We know what happened in Athens, and Liverpool fans were the cause of most of the trouble there. "There have been 25 incidents involving Liverpool fans away from home since 2003 and these are in the report - most teams' supporters do not cause any trouble at all."
It's a conversation that needs to be had
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I am not your mate, kid.
You have no evidence.
None at all.
You yourself have identified segments of the sequence of events, which clearly Liverpool fans are not responsible for, had no control over other than unknowingly buying tickets from criminal gangs, and yet still you persist with your cowardly ghoulish unproven allegations.
Clearly a supporter of another club and extremely bitter regarding Liverpool's much superior record.
Do you have any evidence for this claim?
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Yes Liam I do, google all the British broadsheets, can you manage that, Liam?
You should be able to manage it because you managed to quote Wiki...
And Twitter.. And Youtube...
But with no evidence afterward to corroborate your cowardly and ghoulish allegations.
You don't seem intelligent enough to be so condescending
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You don't seem intelligent enough to be so condescending, the only evidence I can find Is this
Liverpool fans charged by riot police in Paris after night of crowd problems
There were chaotic scenes at the Stade de France and elsewhere in the French capital.metro.co.uk
That is not a broadsheet, Liam.
Do you understand what a broadsheet is?
Have you heard of the Guardian, Liam?
It has a news site that grown-ups read and which clearly you don't.
Take a look at what actually happened.
Then apologise to Liverpool and to Liverpool fans.
I'm a guardian reader but it's far from neutral
The French government and uefa blame Liverpool fans and if you want to ignore it and tantrum that's fine but others may want to listen