Hooters.

[hell2bwith76]

I was replying to a post about mainly Pakistani/Muslim gangs grooming girls into prostitution which ( I suspect) was in reference to them openly operating on the streets, as this has been going on before we all had access to the internet.

Does anyone have an opinion to why this happens, which isn't one that's googled from the web?

From actual experience i can state that what you write is correct but you can add Poles plus a few other Europeans to that list too. It must have been part of their culture before they migrated to the UK ? i don`t know but i know it happens .

 

[Saphire]

I was replying to a post about mainly Pakistani/Muslim gangs grooming girls into prostitution which ( I suspect) was in reference to them openly operating on the streets, as this has been going on before we all had access to the internet.

Does anyone have an opinion to why this happens, which isn't one that's googled from the web?

I do...do you?
You can't throw questions out on a debate thread without offering your own opinions too.

 

[Saphire]

I don't think it has anything to do with their culture.

Its more to do with the fact that there are plenty of poorly educated young girls coming from poorly educated, unstable, toxic backgrounds in the UK and these men are exploiting the situation - These men are obviously no better than what they think these young girls, are.

This is why a stable family structure is important, besides education.

It isn't 'more to do with the fact there are poorly educated girls from unstable backgrounds' at all...that sounds like victim blaming to me.

It's ALL to do with gangs of mainly Muslim Pakistani men, treating young white girls like trash, grooming, drugging, and prostituting them out to their families and friends....under the noses of the people who should be protecting these vulnerable kids.

 

[Saphire]

Not at all victim blaming - have you actually read my post in full?

They treat these girls how they perceive them.


Do these girls come from poorly educated, unstable, toxic backgrounds, yes or no?

Not all.
I live very close to one of the areas where these gangs have operated in for many years.


I did read your post....you reread it....it smacks of victim blaming.

 

[Saphire]

So now the girls that are groomed by a bunch of lowlifes, are all of a sudden from a middle class background and have good grades at school?
And the parents are still married to each other?

I didn't say that...try to follow what I actually did say.

*Waits for the psychology lesson which will be possibly copied & pasted from Quora or some other website* Lol

I simply don't do that...you are making things up again.
I will C&P a text to outline a story...direct news links are not allowed on this site.

If you want to perceive my posts as victim blaming , you're free to do so, it's not my problem.
I'm not responsible for your perception/train of thougt/mind process.

You actually said in reply, when someone suggested culturally these Muslim gangs treat women like trash..
"Its more to do with the fact that there are plenty of poorly educated young girls coming from poorly educated, unstable, toxic backgrounds in the UK"
It's ALL to do with gangs of predominately Muslim men praying on young vulnerable kids....no matter the background they come from,

Others, like parents, social workers, police, CPS, governments, have to take some responsibility for not protecting the girls, but the blame lies solely with the rapists.

 

[Saphire]

I was actually replying to this, but I preferred to delete the comment as it's pointless debating with a brick wall.

I've already tried explaining it to you.

You don't accept my reply, fine.

I'm not repeating the same things over and over.

In my opinion you're a fake and a troll.

But that's just my opinion based on what I deduce from your posts.

You are entitled to your opinion...however, you are wrong.
My opinion of you is that you definitely have an agenda, I was prepared to humour you, but as your mask is slipping, and the insults are starting to slip out....I may reconsider.

 

[Saphire]

True and I also added the following:
and these men are exploiting the situation - These men are obviously no better than what they think these young girls, are.

When you quote my posts, try quoting the whole post , not just the bit that suits your agenda.

Straw clutching again.
The site cuts the quoted post short not me....simply 'click to expand' and the full post shows.

 

[Saphire]

The above is my full post - You only quoted the bit that fits your agenda.

I'm done.

Thank God for that.

 

[hell2bwith76]

It's ALL to do with gangs of predominately Muslim men

Do you have reason to think that it`s "all" Muslims who have this culture ? From my young days we knew a few Polish girls who were being "groomed " ,not by gangs but by their own parents !

 

[hell2bwith76]

Can you read?

I don't think it has anything to do with their culture.

Its more to do with the fact that there are plenty of poorly educated young girls coming from poorly educated, unstable, toxic backgrounds in the UK and these men are exploiting the situation - These men are obviously no better than what they think these young girls, are.

This is why a stable family structure is important, besides education.

Read the whole post instead of just bits of it.

Mmmm and one of the ways to success in getting a stable family is to make Divorce more easy ? haa Yet another blow for Womens Lib

 

[Saphire]

Do you have reason to think that it`s "all" Muslims who have this culture ? From my young days we knew a few Polish girls who were being "groomed " ,not by gangs but by their own parents !

No I don't think it's ALL Muslims who have this culture.
I am sure the vast majority of Muslim men DONT groom and rape young white girls.
I was talking of the Asian gangs that have operated in the UK for decades, which consist of mainly Muslim Pakistani men.

 

[Saphire]

Yet you want to blame the young girls for the exploiting of the situation??? Because that IS what you’re saying.

That's exactly what I took from what she was saying.

 

[hell2bwith76]

No I don't think it's ALL Muslims who have this culture.
I am sure the vast majority of Muslim men DONT groom and rape young white girls.
I was talking of the Asian gangs that have operated in the UK for decades, which consist of mainly Muslim Pakistani men.

I think you should include the Eastern Bloc men too ,they seem to appear on TV news a lot for what we have been discussing even if they don`t "look" exactly like Pakistanis .

 

[BronzeSquirrel]

I dont know whether it happens in other countries.
I do know why it was and is, such a horrendous problem here.

I was replying to a post about mainly Pakistani/Muslim gangs grooming girls into prostitution which ( I suspect) was in reference to them openly operating on the streets, as this has been going on before we all had access to the internet.

Does anyone have an opinion to why this happens, which isn't one that's googled from the web?

I think they do it because they can. Pakistani communities are a closed book on the whole. They keep to themselves so far as marriage and family are concerned and it's a culture of misogyny in my opinion. It's a sexually oppressive culture that, on the whole, treats women as second class citizens, particularly white ones. There are many paedophile rings, of all races and cultures, but in this country it's become the thing to be afraid to open your mouth and state the obvious for fear of being labelled a racist. Which is why these gangs have been able to abuse children for so long.

 

[BronzeSquirrel]

A survey in 2017 by World Vision India found that as many as half of the children in India have been a victim of sexual abuse at some point in their lives. Half of them!

 

[BronzeSquirrel]

There's a story in the papers today of a 13 year old girl who got gang raped in India by four men. She went to the police station to report and the policeman there raped her too.