do you believe in God

[jefffs]

ffs someone please remind me not too read this rubbish again

 

[Altair]

ffs someone please remind me not too read this rubbish again

It's only Rubbish if you read it with closed eyes.

 

[TwoWhalesInAPool]

Nope!

Still a load of f.ucking rubbish.

 

[A_Son_of_God]

" I have a personal belief that there is no largest object (universe, etc), and there is no smallest object (quark, etc), but it is an infinite search of depth."
"I don't believe the universe is infinite, in other words."
Slightly confusing...

Well, infinite means it goes on forever. But if that was the case, there couldn't be multiple universes, eh, as they'd all be infinite, never being able to reach the edge of one as such.

Also, there'd be no possibility for a cluster of universes, as the universe would be infinite, which I believe it isn't. I believe there may be many, and they are of a finite size and age.

 

[Moriarty]

Well, infinite means it goes on forever. But if that was the case, there couldn't be multiple universes, eh, as they'd all be infinite, never being able to reach the edge of one as such.

Also, there'd be no possibility for a cluster of universes, as the universe would be infinite, which I believe it isn't. I believe there may be many, and they are of a finite size and age.

People forget to eqaute the fact that "Infinite" means something is not finite.
Which means we cannot measure it.
So your principle that everything is infinite is correct from the largest universe to the smallest sub atomic partical.
Just because we cant measure it, does not mean it does not exist.
Thats quantum theory, Schrodingers cat etc.
That anything we can measure changes reality simply because we observe it.

When we change our perception of reality, usually through technology being able to percieve things we could not through most of history, our reality changes.
For example, when microscopes allowed us to see that blood was actually a collection of cells with a purpose.
When telescopes allowed us to see what other planets looked like and how different they were from ours.
Our reality shifted.
Everything was both bigger and smaller than we percieved it before.

Isn't faith a belief in something greater than ourselves?

Perhaps we should reconsider what faith is, perhaps it is simply a search for truth without evidence, yet.

God may or may not exist, we don't know, the same way there could be a breakthrough in genetics or physical sciences tomorrow, so could a saviour be brought amongst us.

Life is a mystery for which we have no answers, only hope.
For me, Hope is inifinite, yet it is tinged with despair.
Is that not the Human condition ?
To strive for truth, but despair because we cannot yet find it.

 

[BillionDollarBaby]

Which one? There are between 300 and 3 million currently worshipped,

 

[A_Son_of_God]

we don't know,

I'm not part of that collective "we". The evidence of God is abundant. But people always will - ALWAYS will ignore evidence if it doesn't suit their already-perceived bias.
I'm not saying this about you. In your case, I believe you're genuine. But some aren't, and all they do is vomit on everything that is good. Over time, the vomit stinks more than the thing that was vomitted on that was being showcased.
This is how human society works, and is a trap of the demons. But God allows it because he knows if we really want, we'd see it. It's not hard to see evidence of intelligence in all there is around us. Those who don't, they're really blind and ignorant.

 

[A_Son_of_God]

Which one? There are between 300 and 3 million currently worshipped,

Poor lost puppy...

 

[Chip_TheViking]

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[A_Son_of_God]

Site 1 piece of evidence of any god?

You want me to cite evidence...

There are millions/billions, depends on how you want to look. But you can also say, "Nah, the earth is flat", and use the exact same reasons why it can be proven that it ISN'T flat to prove that it is, if one is stupid enough. No joke. I've had it done to me.

Based on that, I will not provide you with any, but I will refer you to two things:
1) I just posted an article earlier, showing a prophecy that is being fulfilled as we speak. Feel free to dismiss it as "Ah that could mean anything." The majority do. But that said, that is why the Christians weren't taken captive in Jerusalem in 70CE when the Romans razed it to the ground, because of these prophecies that we are aware of and you're not. The article relates to one that is happening right now in the world. Exciting times!!!

2) The other one is something for you to consider as regards "evidence". Because I have a feeling that what you're requiring of evidence is a specific TYPE of evidence, as reasoning on complex ideas you're dismissive of. You're expecting someone to point at an object and say, "See! There it is!", when in fact, it is about logical reasonings. Here though is the link, before I go off on a tangent. Evidence: Legal Definition, Rules, Types and Exceptions - Free Chat Rooms

You will notice in the description, this comment, "In criminal trials, the prosecution bears the burden of proof, requiring evidence that establishes the defendant’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt." This said, this isn't a criminal trial, but it is interesting to understand who the consequences affect. No, it doesn't affect the person who does the due diligence and learns about God. What does a person have to lose by living the best way possible? Not cheating on anyone's husband/wife is a positive, and not a restriction on freedom. It is the loving thing to do, not the selfish thing to do. Things like that. It is not a control mechanism to tell someone that cheating on their partner is wrong, but is a safety for all people involved. People don't fight, get diseases, or have children that are unwanted that are either killed off by a doctor or drug, or treated badly and grow up unloved.

Now, my signature block contains a quote from the Scriptures, which shows how I know there's a God. No, I don't think so, nor do I think there's a highly likely probability of it. I know so. Not only that, but God for some reason deemed me worthy of knowing who He is, and provided a means for me to find truth - a place of respite too, out of the elements of this world which is about to collapse on itself.

The due diligence - my fellow chat friend - is not on me to prove things that already make my life better, nor are they on me when I'm seeing Bible prophecy in fulfillment, nor while I'm seeing the actual demonstration of truth in motion by how specific people are on a worldwide basis in God's organisation. It is on you.

 

[Chip_TheViking]

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[A_Son_of_God]

truth is truth everything else is false.

the earth is not flat, here's a 1 minute video proving it:

thats a shame, as you did state:


I thought I was about to get enlightened lol

Thank you for proving my last statement.

 

[Chip_TheViking]

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[KinkySub45]

Yeah probs

 

[A_Son_of_God]

it didn't need proving it's obvious, you missed that I was showing how easy it is to show evidence of something if it is true.

Well, see, this is the funny thing. You didn't.

All you proved was that you didn't follow the pattern of thought. In fact, you had to defend the point I was making by trying to present proof of exactly what I was talking about. I didn't state the earth was flat. I stated that people use the arguments that the earth is NOT flat to prove the earth IS flat, because that's how willing they are to dismiss truth.

And then you presented nothing. All you did was video drop.
This means that you actually don't know what the argument is, but have to use your external hard-drive. Let me explain:

If you don't KNOW how to reason on the facts, it means you don't know.

Just because you know how to find information does not mean that you KNOW that information. If I carry the World Book Encyclopedia in my back pocket for instance, it does not mean I know all the facts.
"I know!" says the dummy, then he goes to get the answer from someone else, because he doesn't know.
You proved nothing. All you proved was exactly the point. You went off on a tangent and tried to "prove" that.

This is the difference between people who "know" and people who don't. People who know can reason on what they know, and they do their best to understand the line of thought in their debates. It does not mean they try to tangentialise and strawman. This is an art of deception, and as much as you're entitled to do it, it doesn't mean anything. Plus, the holes are exposed to show - by way of reasoning (very important part of understanding is that) - that you didn't follow the dots.

Again, thank you for proving my point.

It is apparent that you and I are not going to be able to work forward from here. This is your method, and your method is to deceive through tangentialising. The onus is on you to prove there is no God, as it doesn't matter one way or another to me whether you get life or not. That's your business, and even God himself remains silent, because he knows that you have a brain quite capable to see the blatantly obvious, but wish to excuse yourself with your reasonings. So God is not going to perform some great brain transplant in people. He knows they're able to see the blatantly obvious.

Therefore, you stick with trying to prove the earth is round with the exact proof that the flat earthers try to use to prove the earth is flat, which was already mentioned that facts are twisted and misused by the dummies because they want it to be so, when it proves the earth is round. You proved nothing. I'll enjoy my hope for the future, and appreciate the joy of having an understanding of why things are happening, as well as having a solution, and a genuine hope for the future.

There is no further reasoning with you possible. But have a good life, nonetheless. We're done.

 

[Moriarty]

What one knows, or suspects due to individual belief is not truth.
It is opinion.
If there were truth it would be universal.
Faith is just that, belief in something other than natural science.
If it is viable, I have no idea, but to doubt is natural as is to believe.

We simply do not know.
Hence anyone who says they Know the truth, be them scientific or religious, is spouting ideology not truth.

 

[A_Son_of_God]

What one knows, or suspects due to individual belief is not truth.
It is opinion.
If there were truth it would be universal.
Faith is just that, belief in something other than natural science.
If it is viable, I have no idea, but to doubt is natural as is to believe.

We simply do not know.
Hence anyone who says they Know the truth, be them scientific or religious, is spouting ideology not truth.

Well, what I love about truth is this. Say all you like:
The scriptures have foretold that in our time we'd be going through exactly what we're going through, even stating what the governments would be like, and how the people would prevent the government from actually doing anything. It also warns us that we are about to watch false religion get decimated. But people in general will not see this. They will see, "Oh, about time. Religion is banned! Religion tells lies." When in fact, it is FALSE religion that tells lies. But people don't care. It will be their complacency that will kill them, just as in the days of Pompeii.
It isn't an opinion that we are living in the end of the system. The evidence is all there. We're free to do as we choose. Nonetheless, the system is at the end. Soon this religion thing will be banned, and all the godless will think they're finally going to have peace. LOL But they're not. The hatred isn't "religion", but "deception and lies", tied in with laziness. Once false religion is decimated forever, then it will go to crap, just like draining the oil out of a car.
The Bible goes on to say that the tribulation will end though. It won't go on forever. It will end. And at the end of it, all of us - you, me, etc - will actually "see" that God has been there all along. But now he has cleaned up religion, and there will only be two sides. We will be on one or the other side of it.
There is no obligation for you to believe it. But it's true. I wish you the best, and hope to get through it myself, as well as hope you do too.

 

[A_Son_of_God]

ffs someone please remind me not too read this rubbish again

Don't forget not to read this again. LOL

 

[Chip_TheViking]

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[A_Son_of_God]

I just asked you 1 simple question, show 1 piece of proof.
you couldn't, so now I'll cast my vote, and it's No, I don't believe in a god because there is no proof.

Best wishes. I hope you have a good life.