do you believe in God

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do you believe in God?

  • yes

    Votes: 19 48.7%
  • no

    Votes: 20 51.3%

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A_Son_of_God

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" I have a personal belief that there is no largest object (universe, etc), and there is no smallest object (quark, etc), but it is an infinite search of depth."
"I don't believe the universe is infinite, in other words."
Slightly confusing...
Well, infinite means it goes on forever. But if that was the case, there couldn't be multiple universes, eh, as they'd all be infinite, never being able to reach the edge of one as such.

Also, there'd be no possibility for a cluster of universes, as the universe would be infinite, which I believe it isn't. I believe there may be many, and they are of a finite size and age.
 

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Well, infinite means it goes on forever. But if that was the case, there couldn't be multiple universes, eh, as they'd all be infinite, never being able to reach the edge of one as such.

Also, there'd be no possibility for a cluster of universes, as the universe would be infinite, which I believe it isn't. I believe there may be many, and they are of a finite size and age.

People forget to eqaute the fact that "Infinite" means something is not finite.
Which means we cannot measure it.
So your principle that everything is infinite is correct from the largest universe to the smallest sub atomic partical.
Just because we cant measure it, does not mean it does not exist.
Thats quantum theory, Schrodingers cat etc.
That anything we can measure changes reality simply because we observe it.

When we change our perception of reality, usually through technology being able to percieve things we could not through most of history, our reality changes.
For example, when microscopes allowed us to see that blood was actually a collection of cells with a purpose.
When telescopes allowed us to see what other planets looked like and how different they were from ours.
Our reality shifted.
Everything was both bigger and smaller than we percieved it before.

Isn't faith a belief in something greater than ourselves?

Perhaps we should reconsider what faith is, perhaps it is simply a search for truth without evidence, yet.

God may or may not exist, we don't know, the same way there could be a breakthrough in genetics or physical sciences tomorrow, so could a saviour be brought amongst us.

Life is a mystery for which we have no answers, only hope.
For me, Hope is inifinite, yet it is tinged with despair.
Is that not the Human condition ?
To strive for truth, but despair because we cannot yet find it.
 

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What one knows, or suspects due to individual belief is not truth.
It is opinion.
If there were truth it would be universal.
Faith is just that, belief in something other than natural science.
If it is viable, I have no idea, but to doubt is natural as is to believe.

We simply do not know.
Hence anyone who says they Know the truth, be them scientific or religious, is spouting ideology not truth.
 

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I just asked you 1 simple question, show 1 piece of proof.
you couldn't, so now I'll cast my vote, and it's No, I don't believe in a god because there is no proof.
Correct. There is NO proof of ANY gods. Past or present.

In ancient times 'Wotan' was a god...No one believes is 'Wotan' any more...Why? Because the 'OLD' Gods were replaced with newer versions to suit the times and to keep people controlled.

In times not so far away there will be NO beliefs in ANY Gods.

Why?

Because people are waking up...Slowly.

Every Church or Chapple up and down our country is owned by THE GOVERNMENT.

And because the belief in Gods is a good money making venture...KERCHING..

People are beginning to realise just what are they are giving their money to....THE GOVERNMENT...

 
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