I wonder if any admin will let me know what you need to do to get a permanent ban , I am sure lots of chatters would like to know this? You say bans are at the discretion of the mods? Surely they all have to act the same or is this a site that has no rules for the mods to follow. It seems to have plenty of rules the chatters have to follow . Ask faerydust? what did I say that was so bad ? Even when mods lie about saying things and if you want to see it I still have the logs..... but guess you wont you just wont want to know or care.