Labour Party

[Jessicarabbit_63468]

As an American I found it very curious on Sky news that Demi (an African English woman) was against family leave for your country. Im curious as to your opinions?

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

Do you mean Either Kemi Badenoch?

Speaking to Times Radio, Badenoch said statutory maternity pay, set up to support mothers for 39 weeks after having a baby, is a "function of tax" which she called "excessive".

She added that "the exact amount of maternity pay in my view is neither here nor there", adding: “We need to have more personal responsibility - there was a time when there wasn’t any maternity pay and people were having more babies."

Its basically 10 months off after having a baby.

If you take Shared Parental Leave you’ll get Statutory Shared Parental Pay (ShPP). ShPP is £184.03 a week or 90% of your average weekly earnings, whichever is lower.

You could get a one-off payment of £500 to help towards the costs of having a child. This is known as a Sure Start Maternity Grant.

This is all pretty low compared to the rest of Europe.

But if you want to get access to social housing, have no skills, never worked and never want too, having a child is an easy way to archive this. This is the reason they have a 2 child rule.


In my fathers day, the idea of a "wife" working was unthinkable and its not that long ago. Women working after having a children was a communist idea. A women's place was in the home.

But back to Badenoch.

Badenoch was just trying to get a sound bite and stand out.

She born in London, spent her childhood living in Lagos, Nigeria and running for the Conservative party leadership. ( Republican). Given what's what's happened over the summer with the riots, I cant see anyone voting for her in the conservative members ballot. Sunak only got to be leader after Liz Truss mess up. No one really wanted Sunak.

 

[Jessicarabbit_63468]

Thank you for the information.

 

[Jessicarabbit_63468]

So how far has the pendulum swung from the far right to the Labor Party of today since Thatcher? IMHO this new conservative leader Kemi Badenoch is a piss poor alternative for mainstream values. Then again, I live in the USA where we elect convicted sexual assault leaders to be commander in chief or as secretary of defense (see Pete Hegseth).

 

[silentfem]

well as politics is all corrupt no matter what country people vote for the best liars as no member of any parliament look after the people that voted them in so no more keir hardly working class members of governments he by the way started the old labour part and was scottish

 

[Jessicarabbit_63468]

well as politics is all corrupt no matter what country people vote for the best liars as no member of any parliament look after the people that voted them in so no more keir hardly working class members of governments he by the way started the old labour part and was scottish

Thank you for your your opinion. Democracy is not a spectator sport.

 

[Jessicarabbit_63468]

 

[Jessicarabbit_63468]

 

[Kev45]

In the UK, so-called democracy has become a spectator sport, voter apathy has long been the norm, and covertly driven by the ruling elite and the political class. 80% of the eligible electorate did not vote for Labour. It was the lowest turn out since suffrage and the lowest vote share in 100 years. Democratic health is at an all-time low, and voting numbers have been steadily declining since New Labour were voted into power in 1997.

The ideological lines between the traditional 'left' and 'right' are now so blurred that any number of the current cabinet would be equally at home in the coalition of 2010. The likes of Wes Streeting, Liz Kendall, Rachel Reeves or Torsten Bell, etc. The "centre" has shifted so far to the right that Corbyn's social democratic election manifesto in 2017, the norm in large parts of Europe, was immediately monstered by the ruling elite and political class. Who will never accept any form of socialism, including the likes of the so-called liberal Guardian, and no matter how mild that socialism is.

There will be no redistribution of wealth, wealth is trickling up and not down at the fastest rates since comparable records began in 1961, and solely driven by post capitalist corporatism. I believe voter apathy is a tool utilised by the ruling elite, a political construct and ultimately the natural conclusion to an undemocratic FPTP system, in a class riddled society, that has always protected the current status quo.

I can genuinely see a Tory Reform coalition winning the election in 2029 if they put their political differences (egos) aside. Obviously, there are stark differences between the UK and the Democrats and the Republicans in the USA, but the UK is following exactly the same pattern that put Trump in power. A Pissed off electorate who can't be arsed to vote, simply because their day-to-day lives don't change in any meaningful way, no whatever which party is in power. If and when they do decide that there is an answer, and are motivated to vote, in this instance Farage and Reform, they will mobilize in enough numbers.

20% was never going to be enough, and chasing the right, to the right, was never going to end well.

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

Its too early to read all that Kev

 

[Kev45]

Happy Googling all day.

 

[Jessicarabbit_63468]

Enjoy a movie or go for a walk. Ted Turner's classic movie the Black Narcissus is pretty good.

 

[Jessicarabbit_63468]

In the UK, so-called democracy has become a spectator sport, voter apathy has long been the norm, and covertly driven by the ruling elite and the political class. 80% of the eligible electorate did not vote for Labour. It was the lowest turn out since suffrage and the lowest vote share in 100 years. Democratic health is at an all-time low, and voting numbers have been steadily declining since New Labour were voted into power in 1997.

The ideological lines between the traditional 'left' and 'right' are now so blurred that any number of the current cabinet would be equally at home in the coalition of 2010. The likes of Wes Streeting, Liz Kendall, Rachel Reeves or Torsten Bell, etc. The "centre" has shifted so far to the right that Corbyn's social democratic election manifesto in 2017, the norm in large parts of Europe, was immediately monstered by the ruling elite and political class. Who will never accept any form of socialism, including the likes of the so-called liberal Guardian, and no matter how mild that socialism is.

There will be no redistribution of wealth, wealth is trickling up and not down at the fastest rates since comparable records began in 1961, and solely driven by post capitalist corporatism. I believe voter apathy is a tool utilised by the ruling elite, a political construct and ultimately the natural conclusion to an undemocratic FPTP system, in a class riddled society, that has always protected the current status quo.

I can genuinely see a Tory Reform coalition winning the election in 2029 if they put their political differences (egos) aside. Obviously, there are stark differences between the UK and the Democrats and the Republicans in the USA, but the UK is following exactly the same pattern that put Trump in power. A Pissed off electorate who can't be arsed to vote, simply because their day-to-day lives don't change in any meaningful way, no whatever which party is in power. If and when they do decide that there is an answer, and are motivated to vote, in this instance Farage and Reform, they will mobilize in enough numbers.

20% was never going to be enough, and chasing the right, to the right, was never going to end well.

Thanks for the feedback! :hugs:

 

[Kev45]

Thanks for the feedback! :hugs:

It wasn't feedback per se, just my left wing opinion, and really nice to see someone genuinely interested in politics.

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

Kev's mum was a leading light in the Awami workers party
He's more of dimmer switch

 

[Kev45]

Kev's mum was a leading light in the Awami workers party
He's more of dimmer switch

It's hard to believe that it was your 63rd birthday last week, but if you want to be in your 40s to chase online women in their 40s, you do what you want.

Did you buy another Googled "kayak" to celebrate?

 

[Jessicarabbit_63468]

In the UK, so-called democracy has become a spectator sport, voter apathy has long been the norm, and covertly driven by the ruling elite and the political class. 80% of the eligible electorate did not vote for Labour. It was the lowest turn out since suffrage and the lowest vote share in 100 years. Democratic health is at an all-time low, and voting numbers have been steadily declining since New Labour were voted into power in 1997.

The ideological lines between the traditional 'left' and 'right' are now so blurred that any number of the current cabinet would be equally at home in the coalition of 2010. The likes of Wes Streeting, Liz Kendall, Rachel Reeves or Torsten Bell, etc. The "centre" has shifted so far to the right that Corbyn's social democratic election manifesto in 2017, the norm in large parts of Europe, was immediately monstered by the ruling elite and political class. Who will never accept any form of socialism, including the likes of the so-called liberal Guardian, and no matter how mild that socialism is.

There will be no redistribution of wealth, wealth is trickling up and not down at the fastest rates since comparable records began in 1961, and solely driven by post capitalist corporatism. I believe voter apathy is a tool utilised by the ruling elite, a political construct and ultimately the natural conclusion to an undemocratic FPTP system, in a class riddled society, that has always protected the current status quo.

I can genuinely see a Tory Reform coalition winning the election in 2029 if they put their political differences (egos) aside. Obviously, there are stark differences between the UK and the Democrats and the Republicans in the USA, but the UK is following exactly the same pattern that put Trump in power. A Pissed off electorate who can't be arsed to vote, simply because their day-to-day lives don't change in any meaningful way, no whatever which party is in power. If and when they do decide that there is an answer, and are motivated to vote, in this instance Farage and Reform, they will mobilize in enough numbers.

20% was never going to be enough, and chasing the right, to the right, was never going to end well.

 

[Kev45]

Thanks, Jess, keeps the informative, interesting posts, in prime place.

 

[Kev45]

Up to 50,000 civil servants are about to lose their jobs in the UK, but it isn't "austerity" it is "tough decisions" and "efficiency savings".

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

Kev I'm trying to get hold of a Mocke PFD - Racer



But no one seems to have one

And we wouldn't have a labour gov if your community didn't support them.
Did they trade votes in exchange for less immigration controls?
Well thats gone the way of the winter fuel payment