If you're on benefits, should you be allows to have pets?

[Not_Fred_Honest]

I keep seeing people in the news who never worked a day in there lives with pets. Scabby old dogs like Kev mostly

Now I'm not a pet owner, but next doors cats uses me as a second home. Hearing people moaning on about the cost of pet ownership, its not cheap.

The UC rate is about £400 a month for a single person. How are they paying for it?

You cant complain about benefit rates being too low if your spend 25% of it on cats.

 

[Murran2]

I keep seeing people in the news who never worked a day in there lives with pets. Scabby old dogs like Kev mostly

Now I'm not a pet owner, but next doors cats uses me as a second home. Hearing people moaning on about the cost of pet ownership, its not cheap.

The UC rate is about £400 a month for a single person. How are they paying for it?

You cant complain about benefit rates being too low if your spend 25% of it on cats.

Having pets has a well known health/mental benefit i must admit it doesn't surprise me u came out with this comment. Not everything is down to money .

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

Its funny most single working people don't have the time or the money for a pet. They don't get the "mental health benefits" of pet ownership.
I cant think of many landlords who still allow pets too

Wait a min... didn't I see something on the news saying the number of people who are out of work with mental health issues are on the rise?

Looks like those scabby dogs aren't helping that much

 

[Kev45]

Why has Steptoe mentioned lil ole innocent me, on yet another thread, yet again, someone must have upset him in the Lobby again last night?

Or much more likely he is just looking for a negative reaction simply because pets were discussed on the forum yesterday.

DOA is extremely predictable.

I recognize that this is a hard time of the year for him, but still...


Unfortunately I frequently lose track with him, yesterday he stated that he does not work, the day before that he boasted that he earns £450 a day.

I have one single rule when it comes to DOA, as does anyone who properly knows him, every single line of font that emanates via his extremely, slow, single typing finger, is 99.9% complete and utter bullshit.

Clunk clunk clunk.


This issue doesn't affect him in the slightest.

He does not have a pet.

He does not even understand the concept of a pet companion.

He does not pay tax, not a single penny.

Likewise, pets are banned in his taxpayer funded local authority secure accommodation.


While we are on the subject of pets, has anyone noticed how the cost of dog insurance has rocketed, the cost of insurance for my American Bulldog has nearly doubled.

As you can only claim x amount anyway, my own vet at the time (Australian) recommended I would be better of putting a small amount in a kitty in a savings account, as much as I can afford, and which obviously accumulates over time for when a pet is older and more likely to need it.

I also read an interesting article yesterday that people are spending much more on treats for their pets, and often more than they spend on their 'other' half.

Well, pets are always there when we need them, they never judge, and they always cheer us up with their cheeky antics.

There are also tangible health benefits, as has been mentioned, and which is why GPs and the medical community (science) recommend and endorse pet ownership.

A pet is likely to improve mobility and cardiovascular health, lower stress, lower blood pressure and lower the risk of heart disease.

It's a win win situation, and you would have to be pretty ignorant to argue otherwise, right?

 

[Kev45]

Its funny most single working people don't have the time or the money for a pet.

Wait a min... didn't I see something on the news saying the number of people who are out of work with mental health issues are on the rise?

Contradicts himself on his own thread.

Which is also predictable.

Claims that there are no tangible health benefits to pet ownership, most single working people don't have the time or money to have a pet, then goes on to say mental illness is rising leading to more people out of work.

The same people who didn't have a pet while they were working, right?

I do hope that they take him out, for a nice outing today, for his own sake.

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

I had to look up the rules for council tenants on pets after all that's been said

Rules for keeping a pet​

You should read our list of rules for keeping a pet in your council home before you apply.

If you don't follow these rules, you may lose permission for your pet and your council tenancy.

1. You should have your pet neutered as we don't allow pet breeding in our properties.
   
2. You should consider adopting from a rescue society if you haven't chosen your pet yet.
   
3. You have to microchip your pet if it's a dog. We also recommend microchipping your pet if it's a cat.
   
4. If you have a dog, you have to put it on lead before you leave your home and make sure it doesn't get out if you have a private garden or shared hallway.
   
5. You have to follow all animal care and control laws. For example if you have a dog, you need to pick up their poo immediately and keep control of them at all times.
   
6. You have to feed and exercise your pet and take it to the vet when needed.
   
7. You have to make sure your pet isn't a nuisance to other tenants. For example barking or making other noise for long periods of time.
   
8. You should get pet insurance to help with the cost of emergencies.
   
9. You need to give us the name and address of someone who can take care of your pet if you can't. We also need your vet's details.

You need permission to keep a pet in a council house. If did look thru the whole application, if you have mental health issues, physical disability or addiction to drink or drugs.......you wont get it. This all depends on the area, but I think its standard policy around the UK.

If you ignore them they will end the tenancy and wont help you find a new place. They class it as making yourself "voluntary homeless".

I get the feeling local authorities and housing association have dealt with issues many times. If the pet owner is taken into hospital, goes jail or dies, they have to rehome the pet putting a burden on pet rescue centres.

I wonder how they deal with fish tanks? Is there a fish rehoming service?

But government takes a difference view on this:

Can Universal credit help with pets?


They offer variable levels of help depending on financial need, free pet care is available for one pet per household if your household is receiving one of the following: Housing benefit (means tested) Council tax support (means tested) Universal credit with housing element.

I'm sure that will change under labours new policy's on getting people back to work

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[Harbal]

My unemployed neighbour has a chimpanzee living with him, and contrary to losing any of his benefits, he is able to claim extra allowance for it. That will stop when it gets to 16 years old, of course.

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

Then you should call the council !!!

He mite be an American terrorist

 

[Kev45]

More DOAisms (pork pies).

Clunk clunk clunk.

We have now travelled from "scrounger" rhetoric in general to an absurd claim that states council house tenants with certain illnesses, such as mental illness, would be refused permission to keep a pet in a council house, and which he claims is standard practice across the UK (which it isn't).

I think that he is confused by his own personal situation, a single room in a multi occupant supported care home, because some ban most pets for obviously practical reasons (except service pets of course).

But yet another rambling statement, nonetheless, that is sweet **** all to do with his original claim.

Which he totally contradicts anyway when he then copied and pasted a statement that clearly states that, in fact, a pet owner would be entitled to extra financial help with one pet if they are in receipt of certain benefits, including the housing element of universal credit.

Again, undermining his original argument.

I mean, who lies awake all night until the early hours worrying about these sorts of issues anyway.

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

Well clearly Kev's not got permission and that scabby oldf dog he's flattering up Chissy mass will need to be curried soon

I feel pets are like other peoples kids, no one really wants to live next door to them

But I do feel its unusual that UC is handing out extra money to pet owners at a time of stagnant benefits. All those people who cant afford to heat their homes this winter or afford child care while others can claim for doggy day care.

It really makes you think

 

[Kev45]

Uh oh, he's upset again.

Spends so much time worrying about other people, over issues that no not interfere in his life at all, I worry about his health.

Clunk clunk clunk.

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

I will tell you something that will make you laff Kev, the silly old woman next door spend 3k on a Persian blue kitten when her son left for the Navy. Then spend more on toys and other stuff to make him happy.

Now when her b/f spends the night, that cat comes here and sulks. He knows how to turn the under floor heating on too

And I wonder how many other pets hate there owners

 

[Kev45]

Old lady with a boyfriend, how old is he, 19?

It didn't make me laugh, sorry, simply because I don't believe a googled word you type.

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

She out of your league Kev. Just like that bag lady your stalking

 

[Kev45]

Well clearly Kev's not got permission and that scabby oldf dog he's flattering up Chissy mass will need to be curried soon

Before I put DOA on iggy until January the 2nd, I can barely understand this, can someone please explain to me what it means?

If I have translated it correctly, it appears to suggest I am "flattering" up my own "scabby"dog to eat as a curry at Christmas. So, my question is, why on earth would I "flatter" up my beloved pet and then eat her?

I will have a nice traditional roast meal, all the trimmings and I have a 2.6 kg organic turkey crown (boned) glazed with treacle and already sitting in the freezer especially for the occasion.

Answers on the back of a postage stamp, please.

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

Don't make me laugh, sorry, simply because I don't believe a googled word you type.

 

[Kev45]

Get the bunting out guys, let's parttttttttttay!

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

I've take down more posts than you ever made

Now can we get back on subject

 

[ShorehamChap51]

CAN THIS THREAD BE DELETED!!!!
JUST another user Stoking the shite pot

 

[Not_Fred_Honest]

Kev's like that

But I feel after the winter fuel payment was withdrawn this winter, its right to ask the question.

Why is the government subsidizing pet ownership for the unemployed?