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What's wrong with a vaccine that alleviates symptoms then?
So killing ppl is ok? Or leaving folk with long-term debilitating illnesses? It doesn’t even prevent you catching or spreading the virus. When only a very small percentage of those with covid are dying anyway, what exactly is the vaccine doing?
 

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So killing ppl is ok? Or leaving folk with long-term debilitating illnesses? It doesn’t even prevent you catching or spreading the virus. When only a very small percentage of those with covid are dying anyway, what exactly is the vaccine doing?
It's saving millions of lives!!!!
 

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Bad.

There comes a point in ones life when you just have to realise that some people wont listen to any reasoned argument that deviates from their own.
Personally I'm rapidly getting bored of the ignorance and/or wilful denialism.

There is a dichotomy between the facts that possessing knowledge has a responsibility to share it with those who don't know for their own welfare and each person being entitled to an opinion.

Both are valid, but society has become so tribalised and busy that those who study contra-narrative events are in the minority, what used to be the media's job, to hold power to account, now falls on a few who get lambasted and ridiculed as they don't follow "The Science".

Science is not truth, it is a search for truth, it is not an answer, it is a question.

Once people blindly follow science they are following an ideology of truth, which is just as dangerous as following a religion, not science in it's true form.

Corruption is rife within science, look at most of the studies done which are accepted by the MHRA, they are funded by the pharmaceutical companies.

Anyone remember a guy called Jeff Wygant?
 

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No it’s not. You can still catch it, spread it. It doesn’t stop you dying. When are people going to get that?

That's what some people don't understand the vaccine is there to reduce the risks doesn't mean that you won't get the virus.
 

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Bad.

There comes a point in ones life when you just have to realise that some people wont listen to any reasoned argument that deviates from their own.
Personally I'm rapidly getting bored of the ignorance and/or wilful denialism.

There is a dichotomy between the facts that possessing knowledge has a responsibility to share it with those who don't know for their own welfare and each person being entitled to an opinion.

Both are valid, but society has become so tribalised and busy that those who study contra-narrative events are in the minority, what used to be the media's job, to hold power to account, now falls on a few who get lambasted and ridiculed as they don't follow "The Science".

Science is not truth, it is a search for truth, it is not an answer, it is a question.

Once people blindly follow science they are following an ideology of truth, which is just as dangerous as following a religion, not science in it's true form.

Corruption is rife within science, look at most of the studies done which are accepted by the MHRA, they are funded by the pharmaceutical companies.

Anyone remember a guy called Jeff Wygant?

More longwinded bullsh*t curtesy of the kebab munching anti-vaxx brigade.

Doesn't actually say anything at all.

Assumes churning out a patronizing blah blah blah about "knowledge" he doesn't have is effective. As it claims to be both a "psychologist" and a "social scientist"

Can't communicate for toffee.

Doesn't understand what "social science" is. Can't produce any verifiable facts or figures to support his stance.

Claims to have independently researched this topic for over a year and has NOT provided ANY evidence to support that statement. Not a dicky bird. Not a single shred of evidence.

Claims both scientists and doctors are deliberately maiming and murdering people with the various Covid vaccines and still has NOT supported that statement with any evidence.


Another online bullsh*tter.
 

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That's what some people don't understand the vaccine is there to reduce the risks doesn't mean that you won't get the virus.
Definition by Oxford English language Dictionary.

Vaccine.
"A substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease."

Note the phrase "provide immunity against one or several diseases"

Hence the mRNA COVID injection is not a vaccine, it is gene therapy.

For it to be advertised as such is misleading in the extreme.

How many people would have volunteered for "Gene Therapy" rather than a "Vaccine".
 

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Is so ignorant it doesn't understand that no vaccine is 100% effective. So ignorant it doesn't understand all vaccines have side effects. So ignorant it doesn't understand that the Covid vaccines are demonstrably more effective than the flu vaccine etc. So ignorant it does not understand herd immunity.

Now it has rewritten what a "vaccine" is or isn't.

You would assume, after a year's study of independent research this idiot would post his completed thesis.


LOL!
 

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Is so ignorant it doesn't understand that no vaccine is 100% effective. So ignorant it doesn't understand all vaccines have side effects. So ignorant it doesn't understand that the Covid vaccines are demonstrably more effective than the flu vaccine etc. So ignorant it does not understand herd immunity.

Now it has rewritten what a "vaccine" is or isn't.

You would assume, after a year's study of independent research this idiot would post his completed thesis.


LOL!
Heya Sam

Lets play with your post.
In my last post I never mentioned effectiveness, or side effects.
Your use of vaccine is misrepresentative given immunity is a pre-requisite by definition.

BTW I linked the sites I mentioned on the other post, you know, the ones you denied existed.

I do appreciate being devalued to being "It", gives rise to a ponderance.

Isn't that how genocides happen, to de-humanise to the point of a fear/disgust reaction.

Perhaps you would like to see my kind, those which question, wiped out.

Or perhaps your just having fun.

Even a semi competent Troll would have an argument, you appear to simply like to see your futile grab for respect as enough.

Have fun with your next rambling diatribe.

Should be fun to watch :)
 
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Moriarty,
I given up with Sam and Tiddlers. Neither provide anything to justify or even merit their comments. All either seem to do is claim everyone is a nutter, or imagine, in their own words, that everyone is comparable to David Icke. They never answer questions, which I'm sure anyone who reads their nonsense has noticed, all they ever do is claim to know better without even attempting to back it up. To be fair, Tiddles just hangs on every word Sam posts, he has no opinion of his own, unless you count posting nonsense from a satirical website. Sam, however, is a lost cause, he actually believes the crap he types. When he learns how to conduct a debate maybe folk will listen, but while he continues to merely grandstand and showboat he’s worse than pointless.
 

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The troll accusations, the last bastion of the ignorant.

This online bullsh*tter and pisshead claims to be a "psychologist". It hides its complete ignorance behind a veneer of respectability.

It doesn't understand WE have already had this SAME debate on this site, over and over again. It isn't typing ANYTHING, anyone, with an interest, doesn't already know but with an ego that size it really does believe it has discovered the meaning of life

The problem is just like with his crude thug sidekick, he has forgotten what he typed pissed.

An extremely dangerous pair of individuals.

Who BOTH make false claims and who are BOTH too stupid to back them up with EVIDENCE.



Post evidence you pair of knuckleheads and prove us wrong.
 
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The troll accusations, the last bastion of the ignorant.

This online bullsh*tter and pisshead claims to be a "psychologist". It hides its complete ignorance behind a veneer of respectability.

It doesn't understand WE have already had this SAME debate on this site, over and over again. It isn't typing ANYTHING, anyone, with an interest, doesn't already know but with an ego that size it really does believe it has discovered the meaning of life

The problem is just like with his crude thug sidekick, he has forgotten what he typed pissed.

An extremely dangerous pair of individuals.

Who BOTH make false claims and who are BOTH too stupid to back them up with EVIDENCE.



Post evidence you pair of knuckleheads and prove us wrong.
I thank you for proving my point.
 

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The troll accusations, the last bastion of the ignorant.

This online bullsh*tter and pisshead claims to be a "psychologist". It hides its complete ignorance behind a veneer of respectability.

It doesn't understand WE have already had this SAME debate on this site, over and over again. It isn't typing ANYTHING, anyone, with an interest, doesn't already know but with an ego that size it really does believe it has discovered the meaning of life

The problem is just like with his crude thug sidekick, he has forgotten what he typed pissed.

An extremely dangerous pair of individuals.

Who BOTH make false claims and who are BOTH too stupid to back them up with EVIDENCE.



Post evidence you pair of knuckleheads and prove us wrong.

Whilst I appreciate the personal insults, they make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, does it simply show you lack any argument for the multiple source documents I have provided?

If you want more time to review them and actually debate someone without attacking the character, intention or motive then I would be happy to do so.

For someone who demands evidence as a reason for debate, I simply ask you to refute what I have posted.

If you cannot, then your opinion, and your argument may appear to be as a fart in a breeze perhaps?

Loud but without substance.

I look forward to your rebuttals of the actual sourced documents I have provided as you requested.

Would it really hurt you so much to do your own research and not rely on what your told?

/S

After all, I have been studying this for over a year, you may wish to to take a time out and actually reflect on recent history.

As for your Social Science rebuttal on the post of a previous thread, I can give you some very good source material to study, on google, if you wish to debate that subject also.


/S
 
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Whilst I appreciate the personal insults, they make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, does it simply show you lack any argument for the multiple source documents I have provided?

If you want more time to review them and actually debate someone without attacking the character, intention or motive then I would be happy to do so.

For someone who demands evidence as a reason for debate, I simply ask you to refute what I have posted.

If you cannot, then your opinion, and your argument may appear to be as a fart in a breeze perhaps?

Loud but without substance.

I look forward to your rebuttals of the actual sourced documents I have provided as you requested.

Would it really hurt you so much to do your own research and not rely on what your told?

/S

After all, I have been studying this for over a year, you may wish to to take a time out and actually reflect on recent history.

As for your Social Science rebuttal on the post of a previous thread, I can give you some very good source material to study, on google, if you wish to debate that subject also.


/S
Expect more unfounded personal attacks Moriarty.
 

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This pair of uneducated knuckleheads. Both pissheads.


Claim the majority of the vaccinated will die from a heart attack in two years' time.

Claim both scientists and doctors are deliberately maiming and murdering innocent people with the Covid jabs.



Then they ask everyone who challenges them to prove differently.


A year 10 student would be ashamed.



You can not educate the ignorant.
 
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This pair of uneducated knuckleheads. Both pissheads.


Claim the majority of the vaccinated will die from a heart attack in two years' time.

Claim both scientists and doctors are deliberately maiming and murdering innocent people with the Covid jabs.



Then they ask everyone who challenges them to prove differently.


A year 10 student would be ashamed.



You can not educate the ignorant.
And still no substance Sam? Really? Why bother?
 
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But hey Sam, if you want to embarrass yourself who am I to stand in your way.
 

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As for your Social Science rebuttal on the post of a previous thread, I can give you some very good source material to study, on google, if you wish to debate that subject also.

Anyone familiar with academia, degree level and beyond, will recognize that you are an online bullshitter. Anyone with a formal education understands the basics and you clearly don't.

Your thug sidekick Mr "Phycologist" is another bullshitter who keeps changing the subject, just like you do, when your ignorance is exposed.

You really are not all that special.
 
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Anyone familiar with academia, degree level and beyond, will recognize that you are an online bullshitter. Anyone with a formal education understands the basics and you clearly don't.

Your thug sidekick Mr "Phycologist" is another bullshitter who keeps changing the subject, just like you do, when your ignorance is exposed.

You really are not all that special.
You seem determined to prove every word I say. And I thank you for that.
No opinion, no defence, nothing. Just the same name-calling and attempted put-downs…. You are a joke Sam, and I’m sure everyone here sees it. Play on.
 
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