did our souls exist before we was born ? ? ? ? ?

[Aqua1]

some says our souls existed before we was born here on earth and that we choose our life, parents, etc before we was born here on this earth . . . . . do you believe ? ? ?

some says our souls existed before we was born here on earth and that we choose our life, parents, etc before we was born here on this earth . . . . . do you believe ? ? ? ? ?

Damn right I believe!

 

[A_Son_of_God]

According to the Bible, a person doesn't HAVE a soul. They ARE one. (Genesis 2:7) Due to links not being possible for some reason, you'll have to look at the actual Hebrew wording used. Studybible dot info has it.

 

[Chip_TheViking]

I think soul is another word to describe consciousness because it eludes definitive explanation if I'm right that means it didn't exist before we were self aware (born) and ceases to exist when we die.

 

[Harbal]

According to the Bible, a person doesn't HAVE a soul. They ARE one.

Why not just use the word, "person", then? Persons are born, and persons die; that's all we know.

 

[Chip_TheViking]

Why not just use the word, "person", then?

because new born babies don't have a persona, persona is shaped by societal expectations or personal identity.

 

[Harbal]

because new born babies don't have a persona, persona is shaped by societal expectations or personal identity.

Can you define what a persona is? You could also have a bash at defining what a soul is, if you feel up to it.

 

[Chip_TheViking]

Can you define what a persona is?

persona is a fiction we create AKA identity.

You could also have a bash at defining what a soul is,

I can't define what soul is no one can because I don't believe souls exist, just like all the "Gods".
what I really think about people who believe in souls/love may offend people.
I believe we are conscious till we are not.

can you define it?

 

[Harbal]

persona is a fiction we create AKA identity.


I can't define what soul is no one can because I don't believe souls exist, just like all the "Gods".
what I really think about people who believe in souls/love may offend people.
I believe we are conscious till we are not.

can you define it?

I suppose the definition of "soul" is whatever the person using the word thinks it is. I don't have a definition of my own, because I don't believe in souls, either.

Now when somebody figures out what consciousness actually is, that really will be something.

 

[Chip_TheViking]

when somebody figures out what consciousness actually is, that really will be something.

don't think it's important, when we sleep we're unconscious, the key question is what is it that witnesses the consciousness.

 

[A_Son_of_God]

Why not just use the word, "person", then? Persons are born, and persons die; that's all we know.

Because "person" does not define what a soul is. There is more to it than that. Nonetheless, a person IS a soul, not that they have one, according to the Bible's definition.

Just as soap is a salt, but salt is not a soap.

 

[Harbal]

Because "person" does not define what a soul is.

Can you define what a soul is?

 

[A_Son_of_God]

Can you define what a soul is?

Here is an article defining how the word "soul" is used in the Scriptures. I hope you find it helpful.
wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200004192

 

[Harbal]

Here is an article defining how the word "soul" is used in the Scriptures. I hope you find it helpful.
wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200004192

Thanks, but large amounts of text frightens me. I daren't even so much as glance at a newspaper for fear of a panic attack.

 

[A_Son_of_God]

Thanks, but large amounts of text frightens me. I daren't even so much as glance at a newspaper for fear of a panic attack.

No worries. Well, just as a taste of the article, it shows things like animals also being called souls. It shows the two words used - the Hebrew and the Greek, and how they were used. Then it goes into some other times it is used, such as meaning the way people think. Hence, "fleshly" as opposed to "spiritual" thinking, etc.

 

[Harbal]

No worries. Well, just as a taste of the article, it shows things like animals also being called souls. It shows the two words used - the Hebrew and the Greek, and how they were used. Then it goes into some other times it is used, such as meaning the way people think. Hence, "fleshly" as opposed to "spiritual" thinking, etc.

Thanks. It's the type of soul that is supposed to survive the death of the body that I have difficulty in understanding. I don't know how anyone could think such a thing possible.

 

[A_Son_of_God]

Thanks. It's the type of soul that is supposed to survive the death of the body that I have difficulty in understanding. I don't know how anyone could think such a thing possible.

Fair enough. Food for thought: Satan told Adam and Eve that "they most positively will not die", and that "they would become like God". That was the first false religious teaching, and the start of the necessity to use the word "religion" at all. Many religions teach this in some way now, that there is something that continues to live on in them.

 

[Altair]

 

[NickUK]

If you take away all your physical human urges and cravings and needs what you are left with is the soul.

 

[Harbal]

If you take away all your physical human urges and cravings and needs what you are left with is the soul.

And all your memories, which are stored in the brain, what are you left with? Not a lot, I would say.

 

[Altair]

And all your memories, which are stored in the brain, what are you left with? Not a lot, I would say.

Correct.