Anti-vaxxers

[Whiplash]

If you're an anti-vaxxer, than you are pro-death. You are pro-contagion and you are also pro-misery.

There's only one side to this story and that side is science. That very science that has vastly reduced mortality rates in infancy. The same science that has all but eradicated Polio from the face of the earth.

There is no huge worldwide conspiracy. Vaccinations do not give children autism. Bill Gates does not want to insert nanochips into your brain. Please stop this lunacy.

 

[Moriarty]

One can be supportive of vaccines which are proven, tested and viable.

One can also not want to take an experimental drug which is unproven, untested and of questionable viability.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[breakwake_]

I don't believe the vaccines are the main issue, its more what people are prepared to do to protect themselves and others. Not just anti-vax but anti-mask and anti-social distancing. Anti anything and everything. If people are unwilling to take the vaccine then people could take other precautions but some people want to carry on with life as usual. People appear unwilling to willingly take precautions. The Government doesn't help things by performing such questionable acts as it does, although I doubt any party would be different, Governments now being so out of touch with the masses that they no longer know how to interact with people. Maybe the main issue is trust and the public being distrustful of Governments and big businesses, which doesn't come into question with this pandemic. A lot of uncomfortable issues are being highlighted with this virus which will continue to go unaddressed because they're uncomfortable.

 

[SamBally]

I totally agree. Instructing people to socially distance and wear masks etc wears a little thin when government ministers are themselves pictured not following the rules. The miscommunication and the million other mistakes this government has made in regards to Covid. I suspect whoever was in power would have made similar mistakes. However, the bulk of medical advice by experts in this field is clear and always has been. What government does with that advice is a completely separate issue.

Arguing about government cock-ups is a world away from hysterically screaming it is all a conspiracy and that all governments and that all scientists are all corrupt. Clearly ludicrous hysterical madness and clearly needs legislation in the future because these Covid denying IDIOTS just won't be told and when studies demonstrate Covid denying conspiracy theorists are putting us all at risk of further mass outbreaks that legislation will be introduced which will impact on all our lives. These people, while they pretend to have "grown-up" conversations, these frauds, will ultimately be solely responsible for curtailing all our freedom in the future. They demand access to a society they do NOT contribute to by spewing their ludicrous conspiracy theories.

 

[Wojcik]

I do support the vaccine roll out, but what i don't support are mandatory vaccine programs, where you're forcing people to choose between taking the vaccines or losing your job and livelihood. But not only that, and I've mentioned this before, that any type of forced social segregation is pure evil, especially against those who chose not to take the vaccine. It should be their own free choice and the consequences that they may face, and not governments or other people dictating what they should or should not do.

So no, I'm not pro-death or pro-misery. What is pro-death and pro-misery are these lockdowns that have resulted in people committing suicide.
What is pro-death and pro-misery are terminally ill cancer patients not being able to receive treatment and have to wait on these long waiting lists, yet i can book an appointment for next week to receive a vaccine or a booster straight away.

While people spent last Christmas and all throughout the year of 2020 and some of 2021 on their own and not being able to see their family members, leaders who enforced these rules got to spend time with their families and friends. So you can understand why people are extremely angry over the idea of mask mandates returning and more of the same from a year ago.

How about all of those doctors, nurses and care workers who felt they were forced into leaving their profession because of mandatory vaccines being a requirement to keep their jobs? While people applauded those that chose not to take the vaccine, which resulted in them losing their jobs, the same people also applauded them and called them heroes during the early stages of the pandemic. They even clapped and banged their pans in support of them.

 

[SamBally]

The UK has had the highest male suicide rate, or among the highest, in Western Europe for decades and one of the highest in the world. Suicide kills more men, 20-50 than cancer, road accidents, or coronary disease, and long before Covid became a thing.

You have to ask yourself, what caliber of people are we dealing with, when the latest tactic, is to trot out emotional blackmail in response to a serious issue they did not give two f@cks about previously.

They genuinely believe medical professionals, or care workers, or anyone working with vulnerable people, should be free to refuse a vaccine and when in fact vaccines in some fields are already mandatory and so they damn well should be.

If a single one of them contracted hepatitis during a stay in hospital they would be on the phone to a litigation specialist faster than they tell their mate about the latest Covid conspiracy theory they read on Farcebook.

 

[Saphire]

The UK has had the highest male suicide rate, or among the highest, in Western Europe for decades and one of the highest in the world. Suicide kills more men, 20-50 than cancer, road accidents, or coronary disease, and long before Covid became a thing.

You have to ask yourself, what caliber of people are we dealing with, when the latest tactic, is to trot out emotional blackmail in response to a serious issue they did not give two f@cks about previously.

They genuinely believe medical professionals, or care workers, or anyone working with vulnerable people, should be free to refuse a vaccine and when in fact vaccines in some fields are already mandatory and so they damn well should be.

If a single one of them contracted hepatitis during a stay in hospital they would be on the phone to a litigation specialist faster than they tell their mate about the latest Covid conspiracy theory they read on Farcebook.

For years some medics have had to have mandatory vaccinations for Hepatitis B if they wanted to keep their jobs...where was all the outrage then?
I did applaud the NHS through the pandemic, I still admire and respect the majority of their workers, because they care.
The minority of NHS workers and carers who refuse the vaccination are not, imo, caring for the sick and vulnerable, not if they are deliberately putting them more at risk of catching a potentially deadly virus.

I agree that this government are a bloody disgrace flaunting the 'rules'.
They however are being guided by the science and the medical data, they are just the mouthpiece who relays the messages.
If they choose to ignore the guidelines when they should be setting an example, it just shows what idiots they are.

 

[WickedPerdition]

I totally agree. Instructing people to socially distance and wear masks etc wears a little thin when government ministers are themselves pictured not following the rules. The miscommunication and the million other mistakes this government has made in regards to Covid. I suspect whoever was in power would have made similar mistakes. However, the bulk of medical advice by experts in this field is clear and always has been. What government does with that advice is a completely separate issue.

Arguing about government cock-ups is a world away from hysterically screaming it is all a conspiracy and that all governments and that all scientists are all corrupt. Clearly ludicrous hysterical madness and clearly needs legislation in the future because these Covid denying IDIOTS just won't be told and when studies demonstrate Covid denying conspiracy theorists are putting us all at risk of further mass outbreaks that legislation will be introduced which will impact on all our lives. These people, while they pretend to have "grown-up" conversations, these frauds, will ultimately be solely responsible for curtailing all our freedom in the future. They demand access to a society they do NOT contribute to by spewing their ludicrous conspiracy theories.

Why reiterate what the previous poster has already clearly stated?
Move on to another thread that requires fresh comment.
Talk about tautology! You're a 'maestro'.

 

[TattyBear]

If you're an anti-vaxxer, than you are pro-death. You are pro-contagion and you are also pro-misery.



There's only one side to this story and that side is science. That very science that has vastly reduced mortality rates in infancy. The same science that has all but eradicated Polio from the face of the earth.

There is no huge worldwide conspiracy. Vaccinations do not give children autism. Bill Gates does not want to insert nanochips into your brain. Please stop this lunacy.

Do you deny the UK coroner has recorded at least one verdict of the "vaccine" being entirely responsible for the death of a fairly young, healthy woman? And that's before all the very suspicious instances of teenagers and people in their 20s suddenly dropping dead across the world. But those deaths don't matter to you.

Seems to me that if you're pro-vaccination, you're pro death. You seem like a decent candidate for a Nazi uniform.

 

[TwoWhalesInAPool]

Nazi uniforms? Seriously, Nazi uniforms?

 

[SamBally]

Do you deny the UK coroner has recorded at least one verdict of the "vaccine" being entirely responsible for the death of a fairly young, healthy woman? And that's before all the very suspicious instances of teenagers and people in their 20s suddenly dropping dead across the world. But those deaths don't matter to you.

Seems to me that if you're pro-vaccination, you're pro death. You seem like a decent candidate for a Nazi uniform.

Where is the evidence teenagers and people in their 20s are suddently "dropping dead all over the world" in relation to vaccine uptake and that it is anyway related to Covid vaccines?

All vaccines carry risk. All medicine carries risk, Aspirin kills people. Experts weigh up the risk when they prescribe ANY medicine. One death, after "82% have been double vaccinated is so irrelevant it is laughable.

Describing another chatter as a "decent candidate for a Nazi uniform" adds no substance at all.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Do you deny the UK coroner has recorded at least one verdict of the "vaccine" being entirely responsible for the death of a fairly young, healthy woman? And that's before all the very suspicious instances of teenagers and people in their 20s suddenly dropping dead across the world. But those deaths don't matter to you.

Seems to me that if you're pro-vaccination, you're pro death. You seem like a decent candidate for a Nazi uniform.

Just how many accounts have you got ? since joining in 2018 i have never seen a post ,until now , or your name in any chatroom ?

 

[hell2bwith76]

We need another Steven Hawkes to answer our questions ,or maybe an Einstine ?.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Just this.

You and your "normal everyday life". Have you ever had an "abnormal " days life ,in your life ?.
Maybe we all need to have a chip put in our brains to remind us that this ISNT a normal Virus.!

 

[AGirlHasNoName]

Anti Vaxxers ARE morons. People who are wary of a vaccine that's still in trials AREN'T morons, surely people can see that?

I don't get the vilification of people who would rather wait to have the vaccine until there is more safety data and the vaccine is out of trials. That's people using their own judgement for their own health. The COVID vaccines don't stop the spread, or you from catching it,and in fact, many many vaccinated people I know have caught it and spread it to their immediate families, the emergence of new variants are always going to happen and render said vaccines less effective.

The Hepatitis B vaccine (and of course the other childhood vaccines) isn't in trials and has long term safety data, I had that vaccine when I worked for the NHS, and of course health professionals working in high risk environments like I was should have to have that vaccine unless medically exempt.

The divide and hate swimming around for those whom are un-vaccinated with the COVID jab is absolutely ridiculous. Brexit - divided the country. COVID - divided the country. The government are having a field day whilst you're all hating on each other LOL.

Have the jab, don't have the jab, why let others decisions on that make you rage?
I've had the AZ jab by the way.

 

[hell2bwith76]

It isn’t a normal virus? How so?

If you don`t know then i don`t intend to go into detail about what makes Covid19 different.

 

[hell2bwith76]

I wonder if the towns which quickly vanished during the Plague or Black Death ( was that the same ?) led a normal life as they buried their dead?. A similar situation and in their panic the country folk in small villages fled to the cities and thus the disease spread. I bet they had norma colds and sniffles then too !
All over this country there are examples of "dead" villages which were never reinhabited .
Ohh yes ,this is just a "normal" cold or cough ! hahahahaa .