Thoughts on The Grand National

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They've been trying to make the race safer since the 90's? I think. They've shortened the distance of the race. reduced the number of horses to 34, I think in the past, 66 took part one year. They've lowered the heights of the fences and made only the lower half of them solid. I caught the race on TV the other day and some horses didn't even bother to jump over the fences, they jumped through them!.
An example of what the fences used to look like... solid Norwegian Spruce!.... Horses these days don't know they're born! :rolleyes:

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The national is a great classic race, I love watching it every year.
 

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When I was a young child I recall watching a documentary with father. It was about the goings on at a slaughterhouse (I had an unusual childhood :rolleyes:). The TV crew were so shocked (and I was, which is why it's stayed with me) to discover that one of the horses due to be killed was a previous Grand National winner. They bandied together to save the horse, I assume they bought it from the abattoir, I'd love to know what happened to it. This morning I've been searching the internet to try and find out - to no avail. It seems the world wide web is not the font of all knowledge. :(
My searches did uncover some interesting facts...

In 2023 a total of 1,428 racehorses were slaughtered for meat in Ireland and 175 in England.
Even racehorses who had had prestigious careers – such as Vyta Du Roc, who had won more than £175,000 – were slaughtered for their meat.
Food for thought...
 

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i hate seeing innocent horses killed
Less horses been killed on racecourses then people on roads least if a person breaks a leg it can be mended horses you cant why they die maybe we should send them all to france for meat .
 

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There are a lot of places now that rehabilitate racehorses for other sports , like dressage, show jumping and just normal hacking, their life isnt over once racing finishes.
 

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Yes at some greyhound tracks there are details on the adoption process.greyhounds and horse's have big beaming smiles when running
 

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Why would you compare road deaths to organised horse racing?

This problem coud be fixed, simply turn horses with knackered limbs into cyhorse-borg carts.

Project: RS-Horseturbo2024

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• Chassis Integration: The horse's remaining body will be fitted with a lightweight, durable chassis designed to integrate seamlessly with its biological form.

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• Control Interface: A neural interface will connect the horse's nervous system to the prosthetic limbs, enabling intuitive control as if they were natural limbs.

• Energy Source: The system will be powered by a compact, rechargeable battery pack with solar charging capabilities for extended autonomy.

• Sensory Feedback: The prosthetics will include sensors to provide the horse with tactile feedback, ensuring comfort and preventing injury.

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• Mobility: The Equi-Wheel 3000 will restore the horse's ability to move independently and interact with its environment.

• Quality of Life: With the new prosthetics, the horse can enjoy a life closer to its pre-accident condition, including the ability to participate in non-competitive activities.

• Innovation: This project could pave the way for advancements in veterinary prosthetics and rehabilitation, benefiting more animals in the future.

Conclusion:
Why not? This represents a leap forward in animal care and technological integration, offering hope and improved quality of life for injured equine athletes. Meat from the surgery will be available for folks with a penchant for Basashi. Alernativley a taxideterimist could provide unique gifts!
Whos going to clear up all the horseshit
 

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A lot of horses do go on to other things when their racing career is over. It's when this second calling ends that it may become a problem for it's owner. Put it out to pasture? Possibly... but the horse may live for another 20 years, which would be very expensive. Even if a horse dies of natural causes what would you do with the body? I suspect more than 99% of horses end up as pet food or shipped to countries where horse meat is relished. :(
A notable exception is Red Rum, who I think is buried at Aintree racecourse.
 

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A lot of horses do go on to other things when their racing career is over. It's when this second calling ends that it may become a problem for it's owner. Put it out to pasture? Possibly... but the horse may live for another 20 years, which would be very expensive. Even if a horse dies of natural causes what would you do with the body? I suspect more than 99% of horses end up as pet food or shipped to countries where horse meat is relished. :(
A notable exception is Red Rum, who I think is buried at Aintree racecourse.
I am still riding a horse that is 26 years old , most owners when retiring their horse from their career keeping riding them, if its only gentle hacking, and if not keep them in the field, after all they are not just a horse they are part of your family. We had a pony put to sleep last year that was 35, he was my friends childhood pony and had been retired for years.
 

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Unfortunately I didn't watch it lady, clashed with football duties, racings on TV today I see, ive had a fiver ew on no 9 in the 240 at Cheltenham, longshot but the lady jockey has a lovely bum, I think this could count for something
 

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Please allow me to clear up all of this horseshit!
I have been an avid fan of horse racing for over 40 years to date and I have always felt terrible when seeing an injured horse.
Fortunately for us all compared to past eras of horse racing,fatal injuries to horses are now few and far between.
Thankfully the BHRB(British horse racing board) the main authority and overseer of all British horse racing,have worked tirelessly to improve the safety of racing for both horses and jockeys alike.
Safer lower fences for national hunt racing and power given to on course vets to not allow a horse to race if there is the slightest problem with the horse.
But other safety procedures are now in place that most people have no idea exist.
For instance; hurdles and fences are dulled off and are not allowed to be jumped by any horse if the sun is low in the sky and can possibly hinder both a horse and jockeys vision.
These races are run at the original distance with less fences/hurdles to be jumped.
This is a regular occurrence in today's horse racing world.
Race meetings are abandoned any rain has made any turn to be deemed slippery and unsafe.
In the old days a horse could be whipped for encouragement any number of times,but in today's racing and especially in flat racing,this has been reduced greatly to just a handful at the business end of a race,where almost all whip usage occurs.
Jockeys are nowadays banned from racing for a period of time,depending on the severity of the offence,whip your mount just once in a race more than the rules allow,will always see the jockey banned from riding.
Now to the main point!
Fact: If a horse does not want to race,please trust me when I tell you,nobody has any chance of making it race.
Horses love to race and if they don't fancy it on the day then that's it,they are going nowhere.
Horses also like to jump fences and hurdles, Any horse that does not fancy jumping any fence in a race,then quite simply it will refuse to jump,just as it will refuse to even start a race if it does not want to race!
Nothing personal towards anyone who has posted on this subject.

Horseshit cleared!!! Haha!!!
 

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Please allow me to clear up all of this horseshit!
I have been an avid fan of horse racing for over 40 years to date and I have always felt terrible when seeing an injured horse.
Fortunately for us all compared to past eras of horse racing,fatal injuries to horses are now few and far between.
Thankfully the BHRB(British horse racing board) the main authority and overseer of all British horse racing,have worked tirelessly to improve the safety of racing for both horses and jockeys alike.
Safer lower fences for national hunt racing and power given to on course vets to not allow a horse to race if there is the slightest problem with the horse.
But other safety procedures are now in place that most people have no idea exist.
For instance; hurdles and fences are dulled off and are not allowed to be jumped by any horse if the sun is low in the sky and can possibly hinder both a horse and jockeys vision.
These races are run at the original distance with less fences/hurdles to be jumped.
This is a regular occurrence in today's horse racing world.
Race meetings are abandoned any rain has made any turn to be deemed slippery and unsafe.
In the old days a horse could be whipped for encouragement any number of times,but in today's racing and especially in flat racing,this has been reduced greatly to just a handful at the business end of a race,where almost all whip usage occurs.
Jockeys are nowadays banned from racing for a period of time,depending on the severity of the offence,whip your mount just once in a race more than the rules allow,will always see the jockey banned from riding.
Now to the main point!
Fact: If a horse does not want to race,please trust me when I tell you,nobody has any chance of making it race.
Horses love to race and if they don't fancy it on the day then that's it,they are going nowhere.
Horses also like to jump fences and hurdles, Any horse that does not fancy jumping any fence in a race,then quite simply it will refuse to jump,just as it will refuse to even start a race if it does not want to race!
Nothing personal towards anyone who has posted on this subject.

Horseshit cleared!!! Haha!!!
If you do enjoy the odd flutter,then on the flat racing card at Salisbury on Wednesday 11th June 2024 is a horse of winning potential on its second run to date.
Having finished 6th of the 12 runners on its racing debut in November as a 2yo, That run will have him much wiser to the task ahead and this now 3yo has had the form of that 6th place finish boosted several times by runners from the same race.
well thought of as a yearling, it took a bid of 130,000 guineas to secure its purchase.
Drawn in stall 2 is a real advantage and with the services of Kieran Shoemark in the saddle,I can see Victory in this race leading to a bright future.
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Not a mortgage job but does look good in the context of the race.
No:1)~{AMSTERDAM}~
(4.07PM-SALISBURY){11th June24) 7F Good/firm
Currently at odds of (4/1) available at all main UK bookmakers.
Good luck to all who stake an interest in the race.
Enjoy the buzz that a punt provides and enjoy the race.
 
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