The Real Hell

[Brass]

Some will tell you that even Jesus warned people of being in danger of Hell fire. But in my opinion, there's no way that Jesus was speaking of, or referring to, a place of fiery punishment that lasts forever and ever after you die. From the extensive research I've done on the subject, I've discovered that, far from being a place of unimaginable size and heat, Hell was actually another name for Gehenna, and what Jesus was actually referring to was a device called the Gehenna-2000 (patent pending).

These devices were mass-produced by some intergalactic company contracted by God to make his fire-and-brimstone threats against humanity logistically possible. Without going into such things as inter and extra dimensions and time-line dynamics which would take at least another two paragraphs to explain, the Gehenna-2000 is a one-man interdimensional containment chamber of sorts located in the non-time interval between the end of this life and the beginning of the after-life.

It's not as complicated as it sounds. If you've ever watched Star Trek, just think of this chamber as something that operates on much the same principle as the ship's transporters. What happens is that when you die, and you've been sinful, your atoms will have a distinct dark hue. When a certain shade of darkness is reached, rather than disperse and re-join with the All That Is, your atoms will be sucked into the nearest Gehenna-2000 chamber where your body will be reconstructed to the extent that your nervous system and your awareness of what's going on will be quite intact. Essentially, the soul is forced out of the body and made to enter this etheric chamber through one door, be subjected to the pain of four hundred non-etheric degrees for two minutes straight, be extracted from the chamber roughly through another door, and then extinguished once and for all.

Sounds like a b****, I know, but consider the fact that Jesus negotiated with God on our behalf, and through an intensely hard-fought bargaining session (some bargaining session--he ended up on the cross!), convinced God to reduce the penalty for over-the-top sin. So instead of burning alive in Hell at two thousand degrees for eternity, a convicted sinner only has to do two minutes in the Gehenna-2000 chamber at 666 degrees, followed by soul extinguishment. Relatively speaking, that's a victory in anybody's book . . . except Jesus' book I suppose. Goes to show that a changer-of-water-into-wine does not a good negotiator make.

Now, it could be said that the extinguishment part of the deal is actually a testament to God's mercy because even if you bore no physical scars from the experience, the psychological damage from burning alive for two minutes (without a water break) would be far beyond what even Jesus could heal on a Sunday afternoon after having rested all day Saturday.

But don't get the wrong idea. Before being subjected to the Gehenna 2000, you'd really have to mess up, and I mean mess up bad. You would have to have done something like . . . well, you don't want to know what.

 

[Bad_Influence]

Some will tell you that even Jesus warned people of being in danger of Hell fire. But in my opinion, there's no way that Jesus was speaking of, or referring to, a place of fiery punishment that lasts forever and ever after you die. From the extensive research I've done on the subject, I've discovered that, far from being a place of unimaginable size and heat, Hell was actually another name for Gehenna, and what Jesus was actually referring to was a device called the Gehenna-2000 (patent pending).

These devices were mass-produced by some intergalactic company contracted by God to make his fire-and-brimstone threats against humanity logistically possible. Without going into such things as inter and extra dimensions and time-line dynamics which would take at least another two paragraphs to explain, the Gehenna-2000 is a one-man interdimensional containment chamber of sorts located in the non-time interval between the end of this life and the beginning of the after-life.

It's not as complicated as it sounds. If you've ever watched Star Trek, just think of this chamber as something that operates on much the same principle as the ship's transporters. What happens is that when you die, and you've been sinful, your atoms will have a distinct dark hue. When a certain shade of darkness is reached, rather than disperse and re-join with the All That Is, your atoms will be sucked into the nearest Gehenna-2000 chamber where your body will be reconstructed to the extent that your nervous system and your awareness of what's going on will be quite intact. Essentially, the soul is forced out of the body and made to enter this etheric chamber through one door, be subjected to the pain of four hundred non-etheric degrees for two minutes straight, be extracted from the chamber roughly through another door, and then extinguished once and for all.

Sounds like a b****, I know, but consider the fact that Jesus negotiated with God on our behalf, and through an intensely hard-fought bargaining session (some bargaining session--he ended up on the cross!), convinced God to reduce the penalty for over-the-top sin. So instead of burning alive in Hell at two thousand degrees for eternity, a convicted sinner only has to do two minutes in the Gehenna-2000 chamber at 666 degrees, followed by soul extinguishment. Relatively speaking, that's a victory in anybody's book . . . except Jesus' book I suppose. Goes to show that a changer-of-water-into-wine does not a good negotiator make.

Now, it could be said that the extinguishment part of the deal is actually a testament to God's mercy because even if you bore no physical scars from the experience, the psychological damage from burning alive for two minutes (without a water break) would be far beyond what even Jesus could heal on a Sunday afternoon after having rested all day Saturday.

But don't get the wrong idea. Before being subjected to the Gehenna 2000, you'd really have to mess up, and I mean mess up bad. You would have to have done something like . . . well, you don't want to know what.

I read the first paragraph and then decided you need medical help. I won’t be the last to come to that conclusion. All your posturing you did on the covid forum (god rest it’s soul) has now been deemed the rantings of a messed up mind.

Such a shame.

 

[Brass]

I read the first paragraph and then decided you need medical help. I won’t be the last to come to that conclusion. All your posturing you did on the covid forum (god rest it’s soul) has now been deemed the rantings of a messed up mind.

Such a shame.

Hey, I remember you. You were one of the trolls on the covid thread who didn't like being confronted with the fact that the PCR-test was set at a cycle threshold that was guaranteed to kick out 90% false positives. No, you didn't like that at all. And so you're here enjoying the losing side's only consolation--more trolling.

Now, if you'd actually like to debate the covid issue, perhaps you'll find the courage to make at least the appearance of doing so. And for that reason, I made a thread for . . . people like you who actually think you have anything to offer in rebuttal.

 

[Bad_Influence]

Hey, I remember you. You were one of the trolls on the covid thread who didn't like being confronted with the fact that the PCR-test was set at a cycle threshold that was guaranteed to kick out 90% false positives. No, you didn't like that at all. And so you're here enjoying the losing side's only consolation--more trolling.

Now, if you actually like to debate the covid issue, perhaps you'll find the courage to make at least the appearance of doing so. And for that reason, I made a thread for . . . people like you who actually think you have anything to offer in rebuttal.

You're welcome.

 

[Bad_Influence]

Hey, I remember you. You were one of the trolls on the covid thread who didn't like being confronted with the fact that the PCR-test was set at a cycle threshold that was guaranteed to kick out 90% false positives. No, you didn't like that at all. And so you're here enjoying the losing side's only consolation--more trolling.

Now, if you'd actually like to debate the covid issue, perhaps you'll find the courage to make at least the appearance of doing so. And for that reason, I made a thread for . . . people like you who actually think you have anything to offer in rebuttal.

Get your head on straight. I was mocking TwoWhales and Dan for their blinkered outlook.

 

[Brass]

Get your head on straight. I was mocking TwoWhales and Dan for their blinkered outlook.

You were about to come over to the PCR-test thread I made, and you were about to explain how your failure to explain away the fraudulent use of the PCR-test indicates that the guy who brought it up is messed up. That's kinda messed up thinking, ain't it? Or haven't you given that any thought either?

 

[Bad_Influence]

You were about to come over to the PCR-test thread I made, and you were about to explain how your failure to explain away the fraudulent use of the PCR-test indicates that the guy who brought it up is messed up. That's kinda messed up thinking, ain't it? Or haven't you given that any thought either?

To be completely honest I concur with you that the statistics are screwed up when it comes to the whole Covid. However you come across as obsessed with PCR testing. You have nothing to add to a conversation other than to use stats gleaned of Google. I think you want to be clever, and you try very hard, but sadly you fail at every step. It’s a shame really.

 

[Brass]

To be completely honest I concur with you that the statistics are screwed up when it comes to the whole Covid. However you come across as obsessed with PCR testing. You have nothing to add to a conversation other than to use stats gleaned of Google. I think you want to be clever, and you try very hard, but sadly you fail at every step. It’s a shame really.

Yeah, I'll have another word with you. I'm afraid that it is you who have added nothing to the conversation. Furthermore, it was a debate forum until you and your pals became obsessed with turning it into a one-liner fest until the mod came in and closed it. So . . . yeah.

The PCR-test was a fraud; 90% false positives. I bring it up because everyone would like to talk past that point and move on to masks.

From now on, you can challenge me on any point you want in the appropriate thread, but this is really starting to smell like stalker. You might start by telling me what you think 90% false positives means about the pandemic? And don't hold back!

 

[Bad_Influence]

You memory is flawed sunshine

 

[WickedPerdition]

I read the first paragraph and then decided you need medical help. I won’t be the last to come to that conclusion. All your posturing you did on the covid forum (god rest it’s soul) has now been deemed the rantings of a messed up mind.

Such a shame.

Ditto. You weren't.
And it's its, by the way.

 

[Calledsaul]

To be completely honest I concur with you that the statistics are screwed up when it comes to the whole Covid. However you come across as obsessed with PCR testing. You have nothing to add to a conversation other than to use stats gleaned of Google. I think you want to be clever, and you try very hard, but sadly you fail at every step. It’s a shame really.

Your considered thoughts are gibberish, third rate gibberish at best. I expect you to improve your offerings.

When you have something of value to add to the conversation, that's when I expect you to punt up.

 

[Brass]

Your considered thoughts are gibberish, third rate gibberish at best. I expect you to improve your offerings.

When you have something of value to add to the conversation, that's when I expect you to punt up.

You're asking him to form an argument. So far, all indications are that he researches nothing and then wraps that failure in insults and believes that he's making a point.

Anyway, this is a creative writing thread. If anyone disagrees with I've said concerning the fraudulent PCR-test cycle threshold setting, then make your case in that thread. If you don't, I'll assume you don't have a rebuttal.

 

[Bad_Influence]

You're asking him to form an argument. So far, all indications are that he researches nothing and then wraps that failure in insults and believes that he's making a point.

Anyway, this is a creative writing thread. If anyone disagrees with I've said concerning the fraudulent PCR-test cycle threshold setting, then make your case in that thread. If you don't, I'll assume you don't have a rebuttal.

Why on earth would I form an argument against something I agreed with on the other forum. Like I said, your memory is flawed.

Your considered thoughts are gibberish, third rate gibberish at best. I expect you to improve your offerings.

When you have something of value to add to the conversation, that's when I expect you to punt up.

Something of value? By your judgement? I think I’ll pass. Your opinion mean nothing, never have, never will.

 

[hell2bwith76]

Ditto. You weren't.
And it's its, by the way.

Oii!! you can`t criticise his spelling/grammar ! He is the King of spelling . Tut Tut. Whatever next ?
I`m shocked .

 

[hell2bwith76]

You memory is flawed sunshine

I think you may mean "your" not "you" ?. just saying .
To Brass ... if only you knew that Bad`s memory is even more flawed than you suggest. He counts Jan 2018 to Jan 2021 as 4 years ! and i think he works in Accountancy. Just saying .

 

[Brass]

Generallly speaking, there are three widely accepted theories concerning eternity. First, there is the Heaven theory, which holds that immortality is granted by virtue of an agreement made with one's Creator. Based on appearances, this agreement boils down to gaining immortality in the next life by accepting the Creator's terms of obedient surrender to him in this life. A potential downside for those who go this route is that their eternity will be played out in a landscape of their Creator's choosing. And considering the Creator's legendary appreciation of the praise and worship of lesser beings than itself, it is likely that its idea of an eternal good time and your idea of an eternal good time are going to be two different things altogether. So, just a heads-up on that.

Second, there is the Reincarnation theory. Reincarnation is the old, tried and true limitless succession of 80-90-year lifecycle-units (actually occurring simultaneously), with each cycle offering a new and unique perspective from which to explore the possibilities of soul-growth previously missed in other incarnations (timeline existences). Think of it as like watching reruns of your favorite show; you spot something new each time which helps you to see a more complete picture. The purpose, as it turns out, is not to gain knowledge or wisdom, but rather, awareness. And even then, you don't gain awareness; you simply lose the lie. Beyond that, the idea is to become aware enough within a lifecycle to understand that it's all about relationship, and that All is related! As such, there is no "becoming One with All," since you can't connect to that which you were never in a state of disconnect with in the first place. And no matter what illusions of disconnection you have come to believe in, it is nothing that a thousand lifetimes cannot cure. After that, who's to say what is or isn't?

Third, there is Vampirism. Vampirism is the alternative to Heaven and Reincarnation theory. It allows one to bypass the endless re-birth and re-death processes inherent in reincarnation, thereby allowing one to experience no interruption in the continuity of existence. On the surface, this sounds good. In fact, the list of advantages of being a vampire are more than just a little compelling. Think of it--mastering multiple musical instruments; mastering the greatest works of the greatest piano masters; quoting the entire works of Shakespeare by heart; able to kick the asses of ten Bruce Lees simultaneously while blindfolded and with both hads tied behind your back; never aging; able to leap tall buildings in a single bound; etc. etc. You're thinking, where do I sign up, right?

But, like Heaven theory, Vampirism, too, has its downside. For instance, a recent poll suggests that ninety-nine percent of all vampires were not at all artistically inclined before their transition/infection. Yet, a full one hundred percent of that ninety-nine percent are certified masters of at least twelve artistic disciplines, covering the works of all the masters. What this means is that the lack of a break in the continuity of existence has created a boredom so profound that it has driven them to develop mastery over even mundane and previously undesirable pursuits. Indeed, a popular misconception about vampires is that they are creative geniuses, what with their knowledge of Shakespeare and the piano playing and all that. However, the truth is that vampires do not actually become more creative with the passing of time. Heard of any vampires composing their own stuff lately? Didn't think so.

The sad truth is that vampires soon learn that 3-dimensional reality allows for only so many possibilities; only so many objects to observe, and only so many ways to observe those objects, and only so many ways in which to arrange those objects. Eventually, the frame of reality is seen in its entirety and its smallness both at the same time, and reality becomes just another coffin of sorts (devastating). Unable to press forward in any meaningful way, the vampire is thus forced to retrace its step in its hunt for meaning; things missed on side roads dismissed as not worth traveling three or four hundred years earlier. Small wonder, then, that, according to the same poll mentioned earlier, a full one hundred percent of all vampires claim they were told very little about very much concerning the benefits of vampirism by their recruiter.

Of course, when you think about it, the reincarnation experience is really nothing more than the vampire experience broken up into segments. Don't think so? Consider the vampire experience. You stop breathing, you die, you're buried, and the next thing you know, you're up and running again in a new body. Now, consider the reincarnator experience. You stop breathing, you die, you're buried, and the next thing you know, you're up and running again in a new body. Sound familiar? Oh, and you're hungry! Always the hunger; always the feeding. Both the vampire and the reincarnator will be involved in endless feeding. We're all going to be feeding 'til the cows come home. But the cows won't be coming home because they can't walk, and that's because they have no legs, because you ate them! Trust me when I tell you that we have more in common with vampires than we care to admit.

Of course, most reincarnators will claim that the only thing they have in common with vampires is immortality. They believe that the real litmus test for determining one's vamp-status is, and always has been, the drinking of the blood of one's victims. But are reincarnators being honest when they draw such a distinction between themselves and vampires? Is it really fair to distinguish oneself as a non-vampire simply because one cooks the victim's blood before consuming it? Oh, I'm sorry . . . what's that? You say you dump the blood down the drain and restrict yourself to the actual flesh--and then only after it's been cooked? Ah yes, the power of fire. I almost forgot about the mythical cleansing power of fire--how it can purify even the bloodiest aspects of any harvest. Vampires, unholy creatures that they are, will not take the time to do a purification ceremony as we reincarnators do; they just dig in. Lazy suckers. Is such laziness the product of evil, or is evil the product of such laziness? Like, which came first, the chicken or the egg? Another topic for another dimension.

Still not convinced that you're no better than a vampire? No? Ever wonder why the scene of an animal being "harvested" looks eerily similar to the scene of a vampire attack? I say, "similar," because the scene of an animal being harvested is twenty-three times more horrifyingly gory than the scene of a vampire attack. A vampire attack consists of two small pinholes in the neck, and symptoms of final-stage anemia. By contrast, the back room of a butcher shop looks like the scene of an especially terrible vampire attack--one that has gone oh so very, very wrong.

The point is, whether you or your butcher prepares the harvest for your consumption, there is no denying that the Christian's, the reincarnator's, and the vampire's meal is all one and the same. So, for all intents and purposes, we're all vampires, and there's nothing wrong with that.. If you still doubt your vampire nature, ask a friend to drive a wood stake through your heart and see what happens!
_________________________________________________________________________________________

 

[WickedPerdition]

Generallly speaking, there are three widely accepted theories concerning eternity. First, there is the Heaven theory, which holds that immortality is granted by virtue of an agreement made with one's Creator. Based on appearances, this agreement boils down to gaining immortality in the next life by accepting the Creator's terms of obedient surrender to him in this life. A potential downside for those who go this route is that their eternity will be played out in a landscape of their Creator's choosing. And considering the Creator's legendary appreciation of the praise and worship of lesser beings than itself, it is likely that its idea of an eternal good time and your idea of an eternal good time are going to be two different things altogether. So, just a heads-up on that.

Second, there is the Reincarnation theory. Reincarnation is the old, tried and true limitless succession of 80-90-year lifecycle-units (actually occurring simultaneously), with each cycle offering a new and unique perspective from which to explore the possibilities of soul-growth previously missed in other incarnations (timeline existences). Think of it as like watching reruns of your favorite show; you spot something new each time which helps you to see a more complete picture. The purpose, as it turns out, is not to gain knowledge or wisdom, but rather, awareness. And even then, you don't gain awareness; you simply lose the lie. Beyond that, the idea is to become aware enough within a lifecycle to understand that it's all about relationship, and that All is related! As such, there is no "becoming One with All," since you can't connect to that which you were never in a state of disconnect with in the first place. And no matter what illusions of disconnection you have come to believe in, it is nothing that a thousand lifetimes cannot cure. After that, who's to say what is or isn't?

Third, there is Vampirism. Vampirism is the alternative to Heaven and Reincarnation theory. It allows one to bypass the endless re-birth and re-death processes inherent in reincarnation, thereby allowing one to experience no interruption in the continuity of existence. On the surface, this sounds good. In fact, the list of advantages of being a vampire are more than just a little compelling. Think of it--mastering multiple musical instruments; mastering the greatest works of the greatest piano masters; quoting the entire works of Shakespeare by heart; able to kick the asses of ten Bruce Lees simultaneously while blindfolded and with both hads tied behind your back; never aging; able to leap tall buildings in a single bound; etc. etc. You're thinking, where do I sign up, right?

But, like Heaven theory, Vampirism, too, has its downside. For instance, a recent poll suggests that ninety-nine percent of all vampires were not at all artistically inclined before their transition/infection. Yet, a full one hundred percent of that ninety-nine percent are certified masters of at least twelve artistic disciplines, covering the works of all the masters. What this means is that the lack of a break in the continuity of existence has created a boredom so profound that it has driven them to develop mastery over even mundane and previously undesirable pursuits. Indeed, a popular misconception about vampires is that they are creative geniuses, what with their knowledge of Shakespeare and the piano playing and all that. However, the truth is that vampires do not actually become more creative with the passing of time. Heard of any vampires composing their own stuff lately? Didn't think so.

The sad truth is that vampires soon learn that 3-dimensional reality allows for only so many possibilities; only so many objects to observe, and only so many ways to observe those objects, and only so many ways in which to arrange those objects. Eventually, the frame of reality is seen in its entirety and its smallness both at the same time, and reality becomes just another coffin of sorts (devastating). Unable to press forward in any meaningful way, the vampire is thus forced to retrace its step in its hunt for meaning; things missed on side roads dismissed as not worth traveling three or four hundred years earlier. Small wonder, then, that, according to the same poll mentioned earlier, a full one hundred percent of all vampires claim they were told very little about very much concerning the benefits of vampirism by their recruiter.

Of course, when you think about it, the reincarnation experience is really nothing more than the vampire experience broken up into segments. Don't think so? Consider the vampire experience. You stop breathing, you die, you're buried, and the next thing you know, you're up and running again in a new body. Now, consider the reincarnator experience. You stop breathing, you die, you're buried, and the next thing you know, you're up and running again in a new body. Sound familiar? Oh, and you're hungry! Always the hunger; always the feeding. Both the vampire and the reincarnator will be involved in endless feeding. We're all going to be feeding 'til the cows come home. But the cows won't be coming home because they can't walk, and that's because they have no legs, because you ate them! Trust me when I tell you that we have more in common with vampires than we care to admit.

Of course, most reincarnators will claim that the only thing they have in common with vampires is immortality. They believe that the real litmus test for determining one's vamp-status is, and always has been, the drinking of the blood of one's victims. But are reincarnators being honest when they draw such a distinction between themselves and vampires? Is it really fair to distinguish oneself as a non-vampire simply because one cooks the victim's blood before consuming it? Oh, I'm sorry . . . what's that? You say you dump the blood down the drain and restrict yourself to the actual flesh--and then only after it's been cooked? Ah yes, the power of fire. I almost forgot about the mythical cleansing power of fire--how it can purify even the bloodiest aspects of any harvest. Vampires, unholy creatures that they are, will not take the time to do a purification ceremony as we reincarnators do; they just dig in. Lazy suckers. Is such laziness the product of evil, or is evil the product of such laziness? Like, which came first, the chicken or the egg? Another topic for another dimension.

Still not convinced that you're no better than a vampire? No? Ever wonder why the scene of an animal being "harvested" looks eerily similar to the scene of a vampire attack? I say, "similar," because the scene of an animal being harvested is twenty-three times more horrifyingly gory than the scene of a vampire attack. A vampire attack consists of two small pinholes in the neck, and symptoms of final-stage anemia. By contrast, the back room of a butcher shop looks like the scene of an especially terrible vampire attack--one that has gone oh so very, very wrong.

The point is, whether you or your butcher prepares the harvest for your consumption, there is no denying that the Christian's, the reincarnator's, and the vampire's meal is all one and the same. So, for all intents and purposes, we're all vampires, and there's nothing wrong with that.. If you still doubt your vampire nature, ask a friend to drive a wood stake through your heart and see what happens!
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In all honesty, I can only offer one response to this pointless waffle : L-O-L!
If this is creative writing, I'd sooner read Aesop's Fables!
Another one to 'unwatch'.

 

[Bad_Influence]

I think you may mean "your" not "you" ?. just saying .
To Brass ... if only you knew that Bad`s memory is even more flawed than you suggest. He counts Jan 2018 to Jan 2021 as 4 years ! and i think he works in Accountancy. Just saying .

Give it a rest ffs.

 

[elwoodbluz1966]

Another Forum thread, that's descended into petty bickering, and in less than 24 hours. And all the usual suspects. Closed for further relies now. Get used to this.