Solving the energy crisis

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Isn't this country sitting on huge reserves of Gas? But to get at it, the word 'fracking' comes into it, and apparently, that's a no no. Nuclear power could provide all our energy needs, but again, that's frowned upon. Here's an idea, let's reopen all the coal mines and get the unemployed miners back to work. Oh no, we can't do that, we have to save the planet :rolleyes: So instead, we remain at the mercy of Russia weaponising its huge gas supplies which jacks the price up. :mad:
 

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Yes, it is nothing at all to do with the energy giants cutting storage facilities instead relying on a "just in time" system via sub-contracted storage in Europe and not investing in new storage facilities here in the UK, and of course, shareholder dividends must come first.

Data from Gas Infrastructure Europe shows that the UK currently has less than nine terawatt-hours of stored gas reserves, compared to 75 in the Netherlands (with a quarter of the population), 113 in France, 148 in Germany, and 166 in Italy.

Obviously, it is far more complex but let's face it there is absolutely no point explaining in depth.



"Yeah like even though I voted Boris and boasted for weeks and weeks I voted Boris to keep that commie Corbyn out and even though Boris included tory plans for a 'Zero Net Policy' in their pre-election manifesto, I am actually very angry they actually went ahead and actually started doing it."

The very same green policy they stole from Corbyn's manifesto from 2017.


"Just after calling the general election, Boris Johnson’s government made two almost simultaneous policy announcements that encapsulated the longstanding contradictions of environmental policy over the past decade.

A moratorium on fracking.

A 25-year environment plan and a target for net-zero carbon emissions by 2050."
 

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Gas Price Crisis: Government poised to ask Marcus Rashford to step in.​


The government has confirmed today that it is ready, willing, and able to ask Marcus Rashford to step in to sort out the energy crisis if things get out of hand.

With fears growing over rising gas prices, and potential serious food shortages in the coming weeks, Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng has moved to alleviate public concern today by insisting the government is prepared to ask Marcus Rashford to help.

Speaking earlier he told us, “Yes, we are more than ready to ask him, so everyone can calm down.

“Look, everyone knows that we can’t do anything ourselves and that we don’t know how to actually run the country, or protect the vulnerable in society.

“Or more to the point, we couldn’t give a sh**, as long as we are OK.

“That’s why we are poised and ready to ask that footballer guy to step in and sort everything out for us again and show us what to do.

“We are hoping that he can just go and get loads of gas and carbon dioxide from somewhere in the world and carry it to Britain and give it to us for free.

“Failing that, it looks like he might have to start up some charity to get the public to help, so we don’t have to do a thing.

Asked if they actually know who Marcus Rashford is this time we were told “Yes actually, I think you will find I do. Plays for Manchester Utd.

“The French guy with funny hairstyles.”
 

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Isn't this country sitting on huge reserves of Gas? But to get at it, the word 'fracking' comes into it, and apparently, that's a no no. Nuclear power could provide all our energy needs, but again, that's frowned upon. Here's an idea, let's reopen all the coal mines and get the unemployed miners back to work. Oh no, we can't do that, we have to save the planet :rolleyes: So instead, we remain at the mercy of Russia weaponising its huge gas supplies which jacks the price up. :mad:

Nordstream 2 is ready to send gas, it's the bureaucracy in the EU which is holding it back.
Russia is more than happy to sell gas, it needs the money.
However if the EU accepts Russian gas, the USA will get annoyed.

It has nothing to do with actual shortages, it's geo-politics and market forces.
The market has been betting against fuel supplies going through due to the politics, thereby inflating the market.

It's the same thinking that been thrown around throughout the media that the russians are the bad guys.
They are going to invade Ukraine, Oh No......

Yet no one said a word when the USA funded and backed the overthrow of the Neutralist Ukrainian government back in 2014 for an anti-Russian government.
The USA wants Ukraine to join NATO, always has.

Look at it from Russia's point of view, how would the USA like it if Canada joined a new USSR?

It's BS geo-political propaganda as usual.
 

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Isn't this country sitting on huge reserves of Gas? But to get at it, the word 'fracking' comes into it, and apparently, that's a no no. Nuclear power could provide all our energy needs, but again, that's frowned upon. Here's an idea, let's reopen all the coal mines and get the unemployed miners back to work. Oh no, we can't do that, we have to save the planet :rolleyes: So instead, we remain at the mercy of Russia weaponising its huge gas supplies which jacks the price up. :mad:
The United Kingdom consumes 625,356 cubic feet of Coal per capita every year. Not exactly 'green'. Apparently, we have enough coal reserves beneath Britain for another 500 years. Nobody wants to poison the planet, but where the hell do people think our energy comes from? Eventually even that will run out. Back to the old horse and cart maybe.
 

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The United Kingdom consumes 625,356 cubic feet of Coal per capita every year. Not exactly 'green'. Apparently, we have enough coal reserves beneath Britain for another 500 years. Nobody wants to poison the planet, but where the hell do people think our energy comes from? Eventually even that will run out. Back to the old horse and cart maybe.

Is that the BP report on coal consumption which also says we have 1.9 years left of known reserves?

I don't trust the petroleum industries findings in most cases, this is no exception.

If it correct then we should be building large scale nuclear power plants right now (or should have done 15 years ago, but anyway).
Not the 16 poxy little things the government plans.
 

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Is that the BP report on coal consumption which also says we have 1.9 years left of known reserves?

I don't trust the petroleum industries findings in most cases, this is no exception.

If it correct then we should be building large scale nuclear power plants right now (or should have done 15 years ago, but anyway).
Not the 16 poxy little things the government plans.
There's this mania for all things green. As though the technology we use and take for granted can be manifested out of thin air. Have you seen the toxic lakes in Mongolia? Caused by the 'civilised' world's lust for mobile phones, technology and a 'greener' planet. Or the salt flats of Bolivia where Lithium harvesting is causing poisoning of the water table? It's like we're all so busy focusing on going green, while behind us worse things are going on unseen or ignored that seem to cancel out any benefits. I can't imagine for one moment anyone of the planet, no matter how 'green' minded they are, will be prepared to get rid of their TV/computer/smart phone/electric car etc.
 

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Govt promises to offer support and advice on staying warm this winter.

For example up to five people can easily gather around a candle.
 

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There's this mania for all things green. As though the technology we use and take for granted can be manifested out of thin air. Have you seen the toxic lakes in Mongolia? Caused by the 'civilised' world's lust for mobile phones, technology and a 'greener' planet. Or the salt flats of Bolivia where Lithium harvesting is causing poisoning of the water table? It's like we're all so busy focusing on going green, while behind us worse things are going on unseen or ignored that seem to cancel out any benefits. I can't imagine for one moment anyone of the planet, no matter how 'green' minded they are, will be prepared to get rid of their TV/computer/smart phone/electric car etc.

Simple answer, reduce consumerism.
Or, reduce the need for products to have a useful life.

Make products last longer, but by doing that you reduce profits, which forces companies to cut back on staffing.
Which increases money creation by central banks for government to give in benefits for those out of work, which leads to inflation.

The simplist answer is to reduce population, only then can we reduce the need for products.
Be that mobile phones, technology, energy or food.

Thats the simple answer, that humans are a "Cancer" on this planet.
But I dont see any of the green guru's asking to be the first to be reduced.

The idea of reducing the population is an anathema to most people, so the best solution is to control consumerism.

How do we do this, thats simple.

By linking all financial transactions centrally, by making the supply/demand chain as short as possible and to move away from normal consumption levels to that which is needed.

Thats the world of connectivity, the world of 15 minute cities, of insect farms replacing what we see as cattle farms.
By employing genetic modification to food's so we can grow more in smaller spaces, thereby cutting down transport costs.

Imagine a world where your medical records are stored alongside your credit or debit card.
Where your spending on food is measured and compared to it.
Perhaps you fancy a beer, but your local supermarket wont allow it because your over your monthly allowance for alchohol consumption.
Or a pack of biscuits, but your insulin levels may suffer.

Thats what could happen if we do away with cash transactions and go "paper free".

It's called a Technocracy and it's happening ever so slowly right under our noses.

Yes there will be the cries of "Conspiracy Theory", but its not.
It's in the open, it's plain for everyone to see.

It's actually a great solution to all the worlds problems, a central government which stipulates what we do, what we eat, what we are allowed to consume.
Where no one owns anything and we share accomodation, jobs, parenting and life together in harmony.
It could be the dream of a utopian society.

However it would also control what we say, what we are allowed to think, what we are allowed to debate or discuss.

The problem with it is simple, we are imperfect creatures who have wants, needs and desires above and beyond what would be "allowed".

We demand freedom, even if it is an illusion which is rapidly disappearing.
 

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Comedian Tom Walker as Johnathan Pie and his takedown of Boris Johnson as he explained the partygate scandal to a US audience.

 
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Simple answer, reduce consumerism.
Or, reduce the need for products to have a useful life.

Make products last longer, but by doing that you reduce profits, which forces companies to cut back on staffing.
Which increases money creation by central banks for government to give in benefits for those out of work, which leads to inflation.

The simplist answer is to reduce population, only then can we reduce the need for products.
Be that mobile phones, technology, energy or food.

Thats the simple answer, that humans are a "Cancer" on this planet.
But I dont see any of the green guru's asking to be the first to be reduced.

The idea of reducing the population is an anathema to most people, so the best solution is to control consumerism.

How do we do this, thats simple.

By linking all financial transactions centrally, by making the supply/demand chain as short as possible and to move away from normal consumption levels to that which is needed.

Thats the world of connectivity, the world of 15 minute cities, of insect farms replacing what we see as cattle farms.
By employing genetic modification to food's so we can grow more in smaller spaces, thereby cutting down transport costs.

Imagine a world where your medical records are stored alongside your credit or debit card.
Where your spending on food is measured and compared to it.
Perhaps you fancy a beer, but your local supermarket wont allow it because your over your monthly allowance for alchohol consumption.
Or a pack of biscuits, but your insulin levels may suffer.

Thats what could happen if we do away with cash transactions and go "paper free".

It's called a Technocracy and it's happening ever so slowly right under our noses.

Yes there will be the cries of "Conspiracy Theory", but its not.
It's in the open, it's plain for everyone to see.

It's actually a great solution to all the worlds problems, a central government which stipulates what we do, what we eat, what we are allowed to consume.
Where no one owns anything and we share accomodation, jobs, parenting and life together in harmony.
It could be the dream of a utopian society.

However it would also control what we say, what we are allowed to think, what we are allowed to debate or discuss.

The problem with it is simple, we are imperfect creatures who have wants, needs and desires above and beyond what would be "allowed".

We demand freedom, even if it is an illusion which is rapidly disappearing.
Bloody hell...I feel quite depressed after reading all that. :(
 

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Bloody hell...I feel quite depressed after reading all that. :(

No point being depressed about it.

It was inevitable that socialism would embrace computing and AI, just as capitalism has, but for different reasons.
It's akin to the Star Trek myth, that a utopia can be brought about without wealth or power, with all people pulling together for the future of humanity, if only central government has the power to enforce "Whats best for us".

"Work will set you free", or perhaps "Arbeit macht frei".

Go read up on the World Economic Forums ideas, see how many of the worlds global and local politicians went through thier Leadership Program, including Putin lol.

Don't take my word for it, look it up youself ;)
 
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No point being depressed about it.

It was inevitable that socialism would embrace computing and AI, just as capitalism has, but for different reasons.
It's akin to the Star Trek myth, that a utopia can be brought about without wealth or power, with all people pulling together for the future of humanity, if only central government has the power to enforce "Whats best for us".

"Work will set you free", or perhaps "Arbeit macht frei".

Go read up on the World Economic Forums ideas, see how many of the worlds global and local politicians went through thier Leadership Program, including Putin lol.

Don't take my word for it, look it up youself ;)
No thanks.
No point depressing myself further by knowing things I can do sod all about.
 
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