Showing pms in the room

[Claire8]

Yesterday Cantona copied and pasted part of our pm into the lobby and he didn't just do this once he repeated it. He had called me stuff and I was bored and decided to have a laugh and wind him up, like he was trying to do to me. I thought that it was against the rules to show private pms in the room and resulted in a ban, yet even though he posted it more than once he was not banned. Jojo removed his comments and warned him and that was it, whereas if others did this its a ban. It does feel like its one rule for some and not for others, the terms of use are on this site for a reason, he didn't just do it once he repeatedly posted it and only got a warning for something which is normally a ban. I just think rules are there to be followed and all chatters should be treated the same and dealt with correctly and equally.

 

[TheBabayaga]

Yesterday Cantona copied and pasted part of our pm into the lobby and he didn't just do this once he repeated it. He had called me stuff and I was bored and decided to have a laugh and wind him up, like he was trying to do to me. I thought that it was against the rules to show private pms in the room and resulted in a ban, yet even though he posted it more than once he was not banned. Jojo removed his comments and warned him and that was it, whereas if others did this its a ban. It does feel like its one rule for some and not for others, the terms of use are on this site for a reason, he didn't just do it once he repeatedly posted it and only got a warning for something which is normally a ban. I just think rules are there to be followed and all chatters should be treated the same and dealt with correctly and equally.

Rules are rules, ignore em, break em and all hell breaks loose. plus it just isnt normal to copy/past private chats in main room, underhanded and big breach of privacy + numerous times, yea I agree whether was cantona or any one else including myself. It'sa question of proffessionalism or lack of by sounds of.

 

[LadyOnArooftop]

I can sympathise with the OP's feelings of being let down by private stuff being broadcast and the injustice of it all.
If people don't keep messages private, don't pm with them ever again. Once bitten and all that... Or just never say anything in pm that you're not prepared to repeat in the room.

 

[Claire8]

I can sympathise with the OP's feelings of being let down by private stuff being broadcast and the injustice of it all.
If people don't keep messages private, don't pm with them ever again. Once bitten and all that... Or just never say anything in pm that you're not prepared to repeat in the room.

What was said wasn't even meant, it was a wind up and a reaction to what was said previously, it was just made to look a certain way, by the way he only showed a few lines and not the context etc. But that aside normally its a ban sharing pms in the room and he did it more than once and didn't get a ban, just warned. When others receive bans for it, so it does feel like depending on who you are, then you may get banned or just warned etc. They say to put them on ignore, which to me changes nothing, as I've had people on ignore before and it in fact made it worse, a few carried on slagging me off in the rooms, which was obvious by how people reacted to them and their replies and even some told me etc and once I removed the ignore and spoke to one of them to solve the issue, he has stopped as hes not on ignore and he knows i can see and if i can see i can report it. Another found my facebook and went through my photos etc and took one of me and posted it here and yes he did get a ban, but he was on ignore and he still chose to do it. Putting someone on block or ignore doesn't solve the issue and basically the main point to this was the fact posting pms in the room is normally a ban unless you're Cantona or some others and he did it repeatedly as well.

 

[elwoodbluz1966]

What was said wasn't even meant, it was a wind up and a reaction to what was said previously, it was just made to look a certain way, by the way he only showed a few lines and not the context etc. But that aside normally its a ban sharing pms in the room and he did it more than once and didn't get a ban, just warned. When others receive bans for it, so it does feel like depending on who you are, then you may get banned or just warned etc. They say to put them on ignore, which to me changes nothing, as I've had people on ignore before and it in fact made it worse, a few carried on slagging me off in the rooms, which was obvious by how people reacted to them and their replies and even some told me etc and once I removed the ignore and spoke to one of them to solve the issue, he has stopped as hes not on ignore and he knows i can see and if i can see i can report it. Another found my facebook and went through my photos etc and took one of me and posted it here and yes he did get a ban, but he was on ignore and he still chose to do it. Putting someone on block or ignore doesn't solve the issue and basically the main point to this was the fact posting pms in the room is normally a ban unless you're Cantona or some others and he did it repeatedly as well.

The issue here is that far too many chatters think they know what receives an automatic ban, when in fact they do not. We and the mods take each incident on its context and posting a PM into chat has NEVER automatically meant a ban.

We don't want PM's posted into chat, but please don't expect that every time something is reported, it will mean a ban, because very often, it does not. Action was taken for that PM being copy and pasted into the chat room (it was not a screen shot of a PM btw). It is clear that certain chatters don't like each other and look to get others banned. We don't fall for that. Do the adult thing and put whoever you don't like on ignore. It also has to be said, why would you even be in a PM with someone you dislike ? To 'have a laugh' 'a wind up' ? Sounds a lot like goading to us.

 

[Claire8]

The issue here is that far too many chatters think they know what receives an automatic ban, when in fact they do not. We and the mods take each incident on its context and posting a PM into chat has NEVER automatically meant a ban.

We don't want PM's posted into chat, but please don't expect that every time something is reported, it will mean a ban, because very often, it does not. Action was taken for that PM being copy and pasted into the chat room (it was not a screen shot of a PM btw). It is clear that certain chatters don't like each other and look to get others banned. We don't fall for that. Do the adult thing and put whoever you don't like on ignore. It also has to be said, why would you even be in a PM with someone you dislike ? To 'have a laugh' 'a wind up' ? Sounds a lot like goading to us.

I like other chatters genuinely thought sharing pms in the room was a ban, it was not just specifically to get a chatter banned, I honestly believed sharing things said privately was against the rules. As others have said they thought it was too and after it happened I did pm the mod and said isn't that against the rules and meant to be a ban? and was told he was warned does it again its a ban and I said I thought it was against the rules etc and she said people forget remind them first. So I wasn't told no it isn't against the rules or not a ban thing. Also I was not goading, as I said I got called stuff and had a laugh in return. Putting people on ignore does not stop them continuing to say things and even find you on facebook and take a photo to put here, so if they are on ignore or block, then you're unable to defend yourself if needed or to report it if needed.

But it is many chatters belief that sharing pms in the room, is against the rules and results in a ban, so this was genuinely what I thought, not a personal thing.

 

[TheBabayaga]

What was said wasn't even meant, it was a wind up and a reaction to what was said previously, it was just made to look a certain way, by the way he only showed a few lines and not the context etc. But that aside normally its a ban sharing pms in the room and he did it more than once and didn't get a ban, just warned. When others receive bans for it, so it does feel like depending on who you are, then you may get banned or just warned etc. They say to put them on ignore, which to me changes nothing, as I've had people on ignore before and it in fact made it worse, a few carried on slagging me off in the rooms, which was obvious by how people reacted to them and their replies and even some told me etc and once I removed the ignore and spoke to one of them to solve the issue, he has stopped as hes not on ignore and he knows i can see and if i can see i can report it. Another found my facebook and went through my photos etc and took one of me and posted it here and yes he did get a ban, but he was on ignore and he still chose to do it. Putting someone on block or ignore doesn't solve the issue and basically the main point to this was the fact posting pms in the room is normally a ban unless you're Cantona or some others and he did it repeatedly as well.

Yes, prolific chat-criminality like this should not be overlooked. You gotta nip it in the bud sharpish. If it is a Ban offense then bloody ban the criminal or it can progress to more serious offending innit or was there a personal preference at play. Too many a**h**** here think its ok to hurt others feelings.

 

[elwoodbluz1966]

Yes, prolific chat-criminality like this should not be overlooked. You gotta nip it in the bud sharpish. If it is a Ban offense then bloody ban the criminal or it can progress to more serious offending innit or was there a personal preference at play. Too many a**h**** here think its ok to hurt others feelings.

 

[Ingrid1965]

there is a ***hole in your Bucket/room

 

[Altair]

there is a ***hole in your Bucket/room

How are things in the Netherlands these days?.

 

[Nibbles]

Its against rules to post pms into main chat. Once upon a time this was often given an instant ban, but this was long ago when bans were issued for as little as an hour. I suppose since the usual time for a ban is now 3 days, the punishment issued has been changed. Maybe it also has something to do with exactly what content has been shared also. Just because something is said in private, it isn't always classed as being private. Someone can easily comment in pm, a message that would have no real consequence if posted in main. You just have to be careful who you trust, if you do plan to speak privately with someone. Only real way you can be sure, if you don't want something repeated, don't say it to anyone in the first place.

 

[Ingrid1965]

How are things in the Netherlands these days?.

Same... But I live better...lol

 

[A_Son_of_God]

Due to my religious beliefs and outspokenness on matters when asked, I have received nasty whispers and private messages in the past. These go further than ridicule and verbal abuse. Not necessarily here though. I just mean as a chatter, of which I've been one for decades.

My own angle is that it is in bad taste to do so, but if it is of a criminal nature, then it should be reported to the moderators, or even further, but at least at first instance, the moderators. Not posted in a room for all to see, unless specifically asked by a mod. But yeah, there are contexts to take into consideration too. How serious was it? Was there a reason they did it that kind of nullified a confidentiality, such as an issue raised about what was said etc...but even that is trivial.

And as stated already in this thread, if the person won't keep a private matter private, then I think reanalysing your own level of trust on a chat site is recommended. We really don't know each other that well, unless we actually know one or another in person too.

 

[TheBabayaga]

Due to my religious beliefs and outspokenness on matters when asked, I have received nasty whispers and private messages in the past. These go further than ridicule and verbal abuse. Not necessarily here though. I just mean as a chatter, of which I've been one for decades.

My own angle is that it is in bad taste to do so, but if it is of a criminal nature, then it should be reported to the moderators, or even further, but at least at first instance, the moderators. Not posted in a room for all to see, unless specifically asked by a mod. But yeah, there are contexts to take into consideration too. How serious was it? Was there a reason they did it that kind of nullified a confidentiality, such as an issue raised about what was said etc...but even that is trivial.

And as stated already in this thread, if the person won't keep a private matter private, then I think reanalysing your own level of trust on a chat site is recommended. We really don't know each other that well, unless we actually know one or another in person too.

It all boils down to the individual being of a "twat" type nature. It starts and ends there. If you can behave like that online, you'l be exactly the same when it comes to relationships.

 

[Ingrid1965]

Due to my religious beliefs and outspokenness on matters when asked, I have received nasty whispers and private messages in the past. These go further than ridicule and verbal abuse. Not necessarily here though. I just mean as a chatter, of which I've been one for decades.

My own angle is that it is in bad taste to do so, but if it is of a criminal nature, then it should be reported to the moderators, or even further, but at least at first instance, the moderators. Not posted in a room for all to see, unless specifically asked by a mod. But yeah, there are contexts to take into consideration too. How serious was it? Was there a reason they did it that kind of nullified a confidentiality, such as an issue raised about what was said etc...but even that is trivial.

And as stated already in this thread, if the person won't keep a private matter private, then I think reanalysing your own level of trust on a chat site is recommended. We really don't know each other that well, unless we actually know one or another in person too.

They do here everything with whispers and pm's so don't thrust any1 here

 

[Guff_In_An_Elevator]

If you don't trust anybody why even come here. If you've nothing to hide and haven't been saying things you shouldn't, having your pms displayed in the room shouldn't bring too much drama, it says much more about the person making it public than it does about you, not that that makes it right but come on, Or, you could just log on and remain silent.

 

[A_Son_of_God]

If you don't trust anybody why even come here. If you've nothing to hide having your pms displayed in the room shouldn't bring too much drama, it says much more about the person making it public than it does about you, not that that makes it right but come on. Or, you could just log on and remain silent.

Everybody has something to hide. This is the thing see. That is why our personal details are withheld from the public. We don't share our bank account details with everyone, nor do we tell them all when we're not in the house, as there are many who will use this information to rob us. Those who think there is nothing to hide will eventually have NOTHING, to hide.

 

[Guff_In_An_Elevator]

Everybody has something to hide. This is the thing see. That is why our personal details are withheld from the public. We don't share our bank account details with everyone, nor do we tell them all when we're not in the house, as there are many who will use this information to rob us. Those who think there is nothing to hide will eventually have NOTHING, to hide.

Then why say things you would prefer to hide on here to people who are going to abuse that trust? If you wouldn't give someone your bank details don't tell em owt.

 

[A_Son_of_God]

Then why say things you would prefer to hide on here to people who are going to abuse that trust? If you wouldn't give someone your bank details don't tell em owt.

Yeah, agreed. But the problem is we all have different ideas of what we expect from others, so some may share info in private, presuming that because it was said in private, it will be kept private. It is a disappointment to learn that a person who we lay a confidence with is betrayed. It takes away from the other person's character.
That said, yeah, I won't be sharing bank details on here...but if anyone wants to make a deposit, you know, just let me know

 

[Guff_In_An_Elevator]

I understand that, but this is a chatroom. Much as we like to think people are nice, some are not and if they let us down well, we only only have one person to blame for that.