"If an infinite number of monkeys..." Nope. Sorry. Nothing. Debunked.

[A_Son_of_God]

The theory hasn't been 'debunked', I think those scientists findings have been taken out of all context...the theorem remains as solid as ever as a demonstration of the nature of infinity...it discusses infinity, not the life span of the universe I think the whole thing is slightly ridiculous, its just a thought experiment it was never meant to happen in reality, like Einstein's thought experiments about travelling at the speed of light etc

Fair enough mate. I like your angle, and agree with you. Still, the reason I put the article like that is because any theory that is claimed as a reason why some scientist said something is declared as absolute. So I'm doing it in a like-for-like manner.
Lots of professors professing, yet not too many of them "guestimating". In fact, it's considered a dirty word outside of the boofhead club. It isn't the science itself. It's the self-righteous turds that are in there hiding facts, and distorting stuff. Calling people stupid because they have an alternate theory, with equal weight to theirs.

 

[Elea]

If the total permutations of letters of the English language are finite, and you have an unlimited number of attempts to arrange them, with no limit to how they can be arranged, then it makes sense you'd eventually get the works of Shakespeare. I think the real issue is how this intersects with our universe. In theory, this makes sense. But where do we have infinite resources in practice? Do we have the time for trial and error to create every structure? Are there limits to the creative power of evolution?

I had the idea that the evolutionary process itself could evolve to become better at creating more ordered or adaptive structures, then I heard this idea in Richard Dawkins' book, The Ancestor's tale, where he claims to have conceived this in the late 80s. I felt I was was robbed of posthumous fame. Still, I suspect Aristotle was right that nature is more ordered and purposeful than we realize.

 

[Marrone]

The monkey thing isn't a theory, it's just a sort of thought experiment to illustrate the principle of probability and randomness. If you want drivel, just pick up your Bible.

yes it is not a theory as it says it is a theorum. clever monkey

 

[Marrone]

If the total permutations of letters of the English language are finite, and you have an unlimited number of attempts to arrange them, with no limit to how they can be arranged, then it makes sense you'd eventually get the works of Shakespeare. I think the real issue is how this intersects with our universe. In theory, this makes sense. But where do we have infinite resources in practice? Do we have the time for trial and error to create every structure?

I had the idea that trial and error itself could evolve to become more precise, then I heard this idea in Richard Dawkins' book The Ancestor's tale, where he claims that he conceived this idea in the late 80s. I felt I was was robbed of posthumous fame. Still, I suspect Aristotle was right that nature is more intelligent and purposeful than we realize.

you should write this to newscientist and not htat person but it okay it clear you argue with shadows

 

[Marrone]

Thanks for the video Nick, this is a totally new one to me (the theory) but interesting all the same and the video (we love you Karl) made it understandable without getting too complicated and was amusing to boot.

Wikipedia was too complicated for my liking, and so I asked AI chatbot.

Could I reach the bottom of an infinite lake with an infinite bargepole?

The question of whether you could reach the bottom of an infinite lake with an infinite bargepole touches on concepts from mathematics and physics rather than practical reality. An infinite lake by definition has no bottom, as it extends infinitely in depth. Therefore, no matter how long your bagrepole is—whether it's infinitely long or not—you would not be able to reach a "bottom," because there isn't one.

Moreover, in a theoretical sense, if you were to have an infinite pole, reaching down infinitely wouldn't necessarily imply you could ever touch the bottom, since the lake itself is infinite. Thus, while it's an interesting thought experiment, the outcome is firmly rooted in the understanding that infinity doesn't function like finite measurements."

this not mean anythink Gomer

 

[Marrone]

According to some, this theory is out the window.

Chimpanzees will never randomly type the complete works of Shakespeare

The infinite monkey theorem states that illiterate primates could write great literature with enough time, but the amount of time needed is much longer than the lifespan of the universe

www.newscientist.com

Oh well. Maybe we should invent another arrogant statement to claim absolute drivel and trick the dummies to lead them to their deaths.

https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/12102137/SEI_151103245.jpg?width=837

how lead to deaths

 

[A_Son_of_God]

To those whining about the price of the full articles, stop being cheapskates! Give up ONE beer a night for a week, and you'll be able to afford a month's worth of any magazine you want to subscribe to.

If you can't do that, then use your brain and work out how to get free viewing for it. I mean, you can skate around everything else when you want it. All the Moaner Lisa's! I don't know.

 

[A_Son_of_God]

how lead to deaths

Because if someone is told a wrong path to their destination, they will become lost in a place they do not know, and will not reach their destination. When people lie, they mislead others. This "mislead" means to lead them the wrong way.

 

[Kev45]

this not mean anythink Gomer

Finks four de carmpliment sweathert.

In the Hebrew Bible, one of Noah's grandsons and prophet Hosea's wife are known by the name Gomer.

 

[SilverFoxLondon]

The theory is not out of the window. An infinite number of monkeys could type the works of shakespeare still holds.

The article actually says "If every chimpanzee on Earth were given a typewriter, they wouldn’t reproduce the works of William Shakespeare even if they kept on typing until the heat death of the universe".

The headline should probably read "Scientists realise there aren't infinite monkeys in the world".

 

[A_Son_of_God]

The theory is not out of the window. An infinite number of monkeys could type the works of shakespeare still holds.

The article actually says "If every chimpanzee on Earth were given a typewriter, they wouldn’t reproduce the works of William Shakespeare even if they kept on typing until the heat death of the universe".

The headline should probably read "Scientists realise there aren't infinite monkeys in the world".

Well, based on the fact that the universe could not produce enough monkeys, then it's pretty sound to me.

 

[transit]

Laaaads please chill out and relax.. lifes too short!)

 

[roxlapalma]

**** YOU