Do UFO's exist

[Scotslassie2]

Ok the most talked about and controversial subject do they exist? There are conspiracy theories the lot. I live not far from an area there was supposed to have been a landing back in 1979 it was commented on around the world. What are your views and given all the evidence since then are we any further to finding out?

 

[Altair]

Given the Distances between Our Earth to Another Earth like planet. NO.

The distance is too great.

UFO's seen here on Earth are most likely a figment of imagination or some Military/Weather apparatus.

 

[Scotslassie2]

Given the Distances between Our Earth to Another Earth like planet. NO.

The distance is too great.

UFO's seen here on Earth are most likely a figment of imagination or some Military/Weather apparatus.

But what makes you think their technology is as limited as ours?

 

[Altair]

But what makes you think their technology is as limited as ours?

Technology is not limited. I never implied that it was.

 

[Scotslassie2]

Technology is not limited. I never implied that it was.

this is true you did not but you did not acknowledge that they may be more advanced than us to be able to achieve crossing the distance/time involved. Now that would be an eye opener!

 

[Altair]

this is true you did not but you did not acknowledge that they may be more advanced than us to be able to achieve crossing the distance/time involved. Now that would be an eye opener!

It would...But it's never going to happen...

 

[Scotslassie2]

It would...But it's never going to happen...

I'll tell them to visit you then

 

[Altair]

I'll tell them to visit you then

You do that...I'll be waiting..

 

[BarryCuda]

Who said they need to travel ? one point of view is that they are already here and have always been here.

I don't know what they are but they are certainly something tangible and very real

 

[Gibsense]

Who said they need to travel ? one point of view is that they are already here and have always been here.

I don't know what they are but they are certainly something tangible and very real

Good point.
Also, DNA + instructions can travel at 'c' once a suitable receiver is established. And they do not need to be biological. Mobile AI would be the obvious tool(s)/entity.

 

[Gibsense]

Perhaps they are machine intelligence interested in us because they can witness the birth of their kind on planet Earth. Perhaps they have even encouraged its progress

 

[Gibsense]

Ok the most talked about and controversial subject do they exist? There are conspiracy theories the lot. I live not far from an area there was supposed to have been a landing back in 1979 it was commented on around the world. What are your views and given all the evidence since then are we any further to finding out?

One's opinion of the subject soon changes when one sees one!

 

[Aqua1]

Why wouldn't they be out there?! I think aliens have and are walking among us and are far more evolved than the human.

 

[BarryCuda]

Perhaps they are machine intelligence interested in us because they can witness the birth of their kind on planet Earth. Perhaps they have even encouraged its progress

I like the thinking behind that we are the sex organ slaves of the machine world. We are obsessed with technology making better things all the time improving technology and we now have AI to deal with. We don't even know why we want better things all the time, but we do, so we work hard obsessively to create better machine technology until slowly technology and biology will merge in to something cyborg. We are nearly there now with our mobile phones its obvious the next step will be implantation to link to our brain impulses.

Its like we are the silk worms creating the cocoon for the butterfly and we don't even know we are doing it. This might be just what happens and its a natural progression for intelligent life.

 

[Gibsense]

We are nearly there now with our mobile phones its obvious the next step will be implantation to link to our brain impulses.

Yes, that step took place recently with a 'chip' placed at the back of the eye of someone with age-related macular degeneration to enable a blind person to read. Not to mention Elon Musk's attempts to enhance perception. Oh, and heart 'assists' have been around for a while. External stuff like hearing aids and spectacles. Inner ear implants. (Lol and UFO implants of course!)

The World Space Defence organisation is on Alert; now that the object has flipped from braking to acceleration ('WOW' has nothing on this potential). But I exaggerate, er, I think.

 

[BarryCuda]

Yes, that step took place recently with a 'chip' placed at the back of the eye of someone with age-related macular degeneration to enable a blind person to read. Not to mention Elon Musk's attempts to enhance perception. Oh, and heart 'assists' have been around for a while. External stuff like hearing aids and spectacles. Inner ear implants. (Lol and UFO implants of course!)

The World Space Defence organisation is on Alert; now that the object has flipped from braking to acceleration ('WOW' has nothing on this potential). But I exaggerate, er, I think.

Yes its easy to see that a very advanced intelligent life could become more if not fully machine like possibly even immortal with technology replacing biological parts that would break down over time.
The power of a "mobile phone" "chip" creating a neuro link to our brains and updated from a huge internet AI in the sky we could think of answers and solutions immediately instead of tapping on a keyboard with our fingers. Communicate with ease to anyone in the world almost like telepathy. Far superior body parts than the limitations that biological human parts have.

What this would do to human personalities and freedom of being an individual and being unique is worrying, society would become a very controlling society with everyone being so dependant on a single source of information is very scary thought. It feels like everyone would become the same. I'm glad I am born millions of years earlier to ever see that as that sounds gross but possibly we will all blow our selves up before we ever get that technically advanced.

Any way more on topic what are these UAPs well i don't have a clue what they are but they are there and they are real.

Here are a few suggestions and in no particular order

1 Government Military advancements

2 Our adversaries Military advancements

3 Our future selves visiting us to observe certain events happening (some interesting work written by DR Michael Masters on this very compelling subject)

4 ET (How can we possibly be alone 13.6 billion years some science believes it could be even 24 billion years old). Our universe has been here for a very long time. Millions of years is an insignificant amount just a flash in the pan and they could easily be millions of years intellectually ahead of us using much more advanced travelling techniques through the vastness of space. Or simply their way of life could be nomadic, travelling through space self sufficient for millions of years as a large mobile civilisation making progress through space as they go splitting and dividing their civilisation up through their space travel sending out probes to planets like Earth for investigation.

5 Natural phenomena (We still have lots to learn about our own world)

6 Angels and demons (Professor of religion Diana Pasulka has written lots of pattern matches that show modern day UAP encounters are the same as angel and demon accounts in the bible)

7 Something through conscience being manifested (New discoveries have found this to be also on the cards) Allegedly Sky watcher have proof of this or so they say but like all these UAP investigators lots of promise but never seem to deliver.

8 They have always been here and are here today lots of old paintings and even cave paintings depict UAPs in the skies dating back thousands of years and even hundreds of thousands of years. Some say they could be living in the oceans.

9. All the thousands of public, Government officials, scientists, Pilots ,Radar personnel and whistle blowers are simply just lying and putting their careers at risk and themselves at risk of being ridiculed.

10 The government are practising a very sophisticated disinformation campaign to hide something else they don't want anyone else to find out about.

 

[Scotslassie2]

Yes its easy to see that a very advanced intelligent life could become more if not fully machine like possibly even immortal with technology replacing biological parts that would break down over time.
The power of a "mobile phone" "chip" creating a neuro link to our brains and updated from a huge internet AI in the sky we could think of answers and solutions immediately instead of tapping on a keyboard with our fingers. Communicate with ease to anyone in the world almost like telepathy. Far superior body parts than the limitations that biological human parts have.

What this would do to human personalities and freedom of being an individual and being unique is worrying, society would become a very controlling society with everyone being so dependant on a single source of information is very scary thought. It feels like everyone would become the same. I'm glad I am born millions of years earlier to ever see that as that sounds gross but possibly we will all blow our selves up before we ever get that technically advanced.

Any way more on topic what are these UAPs well i don't have a clue what they are but they are there and they are real.

Here are a few suggestions and in no particular order

1 Government Military advancements

2 Our adversaries Military advancements

3 Our future selves visiting us to observe certain events happening (some interesting work written by DR Michael Masters on this very compelling subject)

4 ET (How can we possibly be alone 13.6 billion years some science believes it could be even 24 billion years old). Our universe has been here for a very long time. Millions of years is an insignificant amount just a flash in the pan and they could easily be millions of years intellectually ahead of us using much more advanced travelling techniques through the vastness of space. Or simply their way of life could be nomadic, travelling through space self sufficient for millions of years as a large mobile civilisation making progress through space as they go splitting and dividing their civilisation up through their space travel sending out probes to planets like Earth for investigation.

5 Natural phenomena (We still have lots to learn about our own world)

6 Angels and demons (Professor of religion Diana Pasulka has written lots of pattern matches that show modern day UAP encounters are the same as angel and demon accounts in the bible)

7 Something through conscience being manifested (New discoveries have found this to be also on the cards) Allegedly Sky watch have proof of this or so they say but like all these UAP investigators lots of promise but never seem to deliver.

8 They have always been here and are here today lots of old paintings and even cave paintings depict UAPs in the skies dating back thousands of years and even hundreds of thousands of years. Some say they could be living in the oceans.

9. All the thousands of public, Government officials, scientists, Pilots ,Radar personnel and whistle blowers are simply just lying and putting their careers at risk and themselves at risk of being ridiculed.

10 The government are practising a very sophisticated disinformation campaign to hide something else they don't want anyone else to find out about.

Star Trek next generation the Borg

 

[BarryCuda]

Star Trek next generation the Borg

Yes a very good point . Eventually though all science fiction becomes science fact.

If it did happen that way obviously many millions of years to now we would end up losing the word "being" to the term "Human Being" what a scary thought.

 

[Scotslassie2]

Yes a very good point . Eventually though all science fiction becomes science fact.

If it did happen that way obviously many millions of years to now we would end up losing the word "being" to the term "Human Being" what a scary thought.

Makes you wonder who is it writing the science fiction the others already here our future selves? Are we trying to save humanity by returning from the future? There was a good tv series suggesting as much