Boris/Trump..Boris Trump.

[Wojcik]

Your only defence for American Policy is that they are militarily strong and have the moral authority to either police or control the region of the Middle East? So you essentially are ok with American, Israeli and Saudi Arabian alliance continuously bombing and displacing people there?

Yes Russia have stated they will defend Iran and Syria and other nations threatened in the region that is why it could possibly lead to more countries getting dragged into it considering this could escalate into An Afghanistan sitaution where it's just ongoing war for decades the Iranians have strong military and there people are prepared to defend their lands which is gonna lead to it being long and grinding with many innocent people killed

I'm sorry I can't see how you perceive America here to be the good guys they have done the same to many over countries in the region previously Libya, Iraq, Syria Yemen to name a few.

Iran attacked the US embassy. That is an act of war in itself like I've mentioned previously. It's not as though America sent drone attacks without warning first. And i don't understand why people are so upset that a major terrorist was killed in the process. So no, i don't see how America can be portrayed as the bad guys here. You do not attack the US embassy, unless you are seeking conflict. Of course, if you're anti-American, then you'll see what the US did as a bad thing. You'll mourn the terrorist known as General Qassem Soleimani, a man responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Americans, and responsible for thousands wounded. The best we can hope for is that there is a change in the regime in Tehran.

It seems you underestimate the strength of America's military capabilities. Check them out, it's insane. The sheer might and power of the US military is frightening It wouldn't benefit Russia to get involved either because of the economic consequence, it also wouldn't benefit Iran to continue to attack the US, even though they do have a strong army like your mentioned, it's nothing compared to the magnitude of the Americans.

I have always admired America, not agreed with them on all their actions they've taken in the past, but i believe they're right here.

 

[Bad_Influence]

It's not for me to defend America's foreign policy. Whether I agree with it or not will make no difference, all I have done is to try, apparently unsuccessfully, to explain that it's not a black and white issue... there are so many grey areas.

You say 'Why should America be there?'... I say nobody knows the whole story, or at least the whole truth behind their stance on why troops are over there. We are fed so many lies, both from Governments and the media, that it is impossible for us to pick the facts from the propaganda. You choose to ignore that there are two sides to the debate, that is your right, but in my opinion it's a very myopic way to look at life.

 

[Bad_Influence]

we are not debating I have explained why I don't like the American Empire and why U.S Troops should not be on foriegn lands and intimidating nations into retaliation when they are not officially at war with anyone. You have not given me a reason why I should not have my stance apart from saying I am unbalanced but you haven't said why U.S Foreign policy in the middle east is needed or why they should police the region to begin with

Firstly I never said YOU are unbalanced, only your opinion.

Again, it's not for me to defend or decry American foreign policy, neither of us has enough factual information on which to base an accurate opinion. I have never claimed that U.S. should have troops over there, just as I haven't said they shouldn't. Your opinion is closed to debate, it allows no acceptance that you do not know or understand the big picture. That, in my opinion, is a sign of someone who have been radicalised.

 

[Wojcik]

Firstly I never said YOU are unbalanced, only your opinion.

Again, it's not for me to defend or decry American foreign policy, neither of us has enough factual information on which to base an accurate opinion. I have never claimed that U.S. should have troops over there, just as I haven't said they shouldn't. Your opinion is closed to debate, it allows no acceptance that you do not know or understand the big picture. That, in my opinion, is a sign of someone who have been radicalised.

Agreed. When someone can't accept the point that others have tried to make, then the debate has expired.

 

[supercookie123]

In other news, today I breakfasted on Lindt chocolate and have had a lovely roast dinner. I have just purchased some wonderful things from the Debenhams sale online and am now going to do some reading in the light of the Christmas tree, in front of a roaring fire. We are far too close to Twelfth Night and the demise of said tree. Ergo, Zionism, Imperialism, Globalisation and Deep State are not words I will be using this evening; thanks for the read though.

 

[Bad_Influence]

It was like talking with 2 children who have yet to develop their own world views

One of them could not even expand on why the American Empire is supposedly something to be admired and the other one went off crying because having opinions and a world view is radicalization.apparently

That is about the depth of there critical thinking skills and iq level most probably lol

Did you mean "THEIR critical thinking"??? It appears you are still aspiring to a 3 figure IQ.

 

[Bad_Influence]

The whole conversation was a waste of time I don't think either of you had enough depth on geopolitics or historical events in the region to begin with

Finally you understand something... well done you.

 

[Altair]

lol

And THIS...From a Newbie Chatter that thinks he/she/it...Is above the rest.!

Best reply.....?....'LOL'.

F.uck sake...

 

[Altair]

I laughed as it was a funny comment

There was Nothing Funny about the comment.

 

[Altair]

I found it funny the clown lad agreed we wasted our time discussing it as he admitted he didn't have much knowledge or background of what has been going on in the middle east hence why the conversation between us was a waste of time

All things fair?...I could give you that...

But i'm not going to.

Sanity shines through..

 

[Words]

Strike a light if your so bothered talk to trump not us

 

[badly]

Suleimani was no Iran army general.He was revolutionary guard,the mafia mob of the Ayatollah.He was behind Benghazi and the murder of a US senator and was in Iraq to orchestrate more attacks on the US embassy.
Only 2 weeks ago an Iranian strike on a Saudi oil pipeline cut Saudis oil production by 50%.
America has every right to protect the west's supply of oil by defending it's allies and every right to defend its own embassy's.
It's a complete shift in policy from Obama's appeasement and shady deals to Trump taking decisive action.
Obama and Clinton go on tv and lie about Benghazi to cover up their failure to act that cost American lives.
Trump takes immediate action and Boris has come out in support of Trump again.
Go Boris
Go Trump

 

[Words]

Matchbox wont like you saying that badly it and its Iran cousins

 

[lucylockett]

 

[lucylockett]

Poor old Boris and Trump

Puppets for the oligarchy and economic systems that control us all

I had to google oligarchy and it’s still flying over ones head .

 

[Dong]

Our new PM clearly taking a leaf from Trump's book.
Positivity,talking Britain up.Destroying Corbyn and Mcdonnel in parliament today.
Loved every second of it.I always thought Boris was too much of a clown to be PM..Glad to be proved wrong after today's commons.
Leftie loonies in full meltdown after this.
Popcorn at the ready i'm going to enjoy rabid commie socialists foam at the mouth now.
Never thought i'd say it,but,
Go Boris!

Our new PM clearly taking a leaf from Trump's book.
Positivity,talking Britain up.Destroying Corbyn and Mcdonnel in parliament today.
Loved every second of it.I always thought Boris was too much of a clown to be PM..Glad to be proved wrong after today's commons.
Leftie loonies in full meltdown after this.
Popcorn at the ready i'm going to enjoy rabid commie socialists foam at the mouth now.
Never thought i'd say it,but,
Go Boris!